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Jeffords expects to be GOP bullseye
BRATTLEBORO REFORMER ^ | March 26, 2005

Posted on 03/26/2005 6:01:47 AM PST by AmericanMade1776

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To: AmericanMade1776
What Jeffords believed what that it was very likely that the Republicans would lose control of the Senate in 2002.

After all the last president to not lose senate seats in his second year in office was FDR in 1934. That took a massive depression to bring about. So Jeffords figured he would be in the minority by 2003. But if he went with the Democrats and gave them the senate in 2001, he would be in the majority for at least the next 8 years.

Jeffords figured that the Democrats would gain control of the Senate in 2002. It was also very likely that in 2004 that the Republicans would lose more seats. That is what history taught.

What Jeffords thought he was doing was remaining in the majority from 2001 to 2003 and keeping majority status from 2003 until at least 2009. He saw it as a win win situation for him. If the Senate stayed close, the Democrats would really need him.. He could always get lots of perks and power in exchange for his votes.

All jeffords got was what he already had ... being in the majority from 2001 to 2003. Then he lost what he would have had if he had remained a Republican.. He was relegated to the minority. He may stay their until perhaps 2010. He is now in a situation where he is of no value to the Democrats and no value to the Republicans. Jeffords is reduced to the state of having nothing to offer either side. As a turn coat neither side trusts him. He is at best a nothing.. with nowhere to go and nothing with which to negotiate.

Jeffords became an independent thinking he could command power by being a deciding vote. But Daschle once the Senate was lost to Democrats did not try to get things done. Daschle tried to block everything. Dashcle only needed 40 Democratic votes. He did not need Jeffords at all. And the Repubicans had no way of getting 60 votes. They had no use for Jeffords either and tons of reasons to screw him. So no one has needed Jeffords after 2002. His phone calls are not returned.

Now with the Republicans having 55 seats and likely to gain more seats in 2006, Jeffords is in a terrible position. The Democrats don't need his vote and the Republicans don't need his vote. And since he jumped ship, neither side would trust him farther than they could throw him.

What Jeffords did was place copious amounts of excrement in his own nest. Now he wants us to believe he does not regret doing it and really likes the smell.

He is just trying to convince the folks back home that he is important. Let's hope they figure out he is not important to anyone..anymore.

41 posted on 03/26/2005 7:14:34 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Erik Latranyi

The sad thing is, that in a three-way race, Jeffords might actually win.


42 posted on 03/26/2005 7:23:56 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: AmericanMade1776

If I were a fellow senator, I'd kick his ass on the senate floor.
Maybe do a Nancyu Karrigan to the bastard in one of the halls of congress.
Now a for working to get him unelected, he will be the biggest target for the repubs next to the hitlery bitch.


43 posted on 03/26/2005 7:26:17 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: ArmyBratproud
"Well......now he his known as a democrap. No other way around it."

He's not only a turncoat, he's a coward too. If he's going to do what he did, why didn't he at least have the cojones to say he was going to become a Demwit? He's sure no Independent.

44 posted on 03/26/2005 7:44:42 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: gridlock

Would Jeffords win in a 3-way race? Wouldn't the Pubbies stay united, while the Lib vote would be divided between "independent" Jeffords, and any Dem candidate?


45 posted on 03/26/2005 7:52:16 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: AmericanMade1776


Jeffords (I-VT) expects to be GOP bullseye, suggesting that if
he can raise his profile, his chances for victory will improve.

46 posted on 03/26/2005 9:16:17 AM PST by OESY
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To: DeweyCA

I suspect that a lot of Jeffries voters would vote for him again, and they are the folks who voted for the "Republican" last time. The remaining 'Pubbies would probably nominate a firebrand who will scare everybody away. Jeffries would certainly poach votes from the Democrat as well. Does it add up to 40%? It might...


47 posted on 03/26/2005 9:21:14 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Milhous

I'd consider trying to get rid of Hagel and Warner, because they're in red states. Running more conservative Republicans in their place would probably result in a victory. Arizona maybe. But we have to be pragmatic. Any conservative Republican who runs for Senate in Rhode Island or Maine will lose. We need role players in our party -- people who manage to win elections even though they're out of the Republican mainstream -- because that's a prerequisite to a national majority.


48 posted on 03/26/2005 9:24:56 AM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: Common Tator

Good insight analysis. Your post also shows why it is a waste of time to vote for third party candidates for Congress. It is tough being an army of one in Congress.


49 posted on 03/29/2005 7:36:29 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: AmericanMade1776

Now, tell us what you really think of him.


50 posted on 03/29/2005 7:43:23 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
but Jeffords maintains he left the party because of President Bush's education funding plan.

Jeffords is a brazen liar. He left the party in a snit because he didn't get money for the milk mob.

51 posted on 03/29/2005 7:47:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: BackInBlack
But we have to be pragmatic. Any conservative Republican who runs for Senate in Rhode Island or Maine will lose. We need role players in our party -- people who manage to win elections even though they're out of the Republican mainstream -- because that's a prerequisite to a national majority.

You might get flamed for that, but you are absolutely correct.

Jeffords jumped because he could. The state that sends Bernie Sanders and Pat Leahy to Congress is not going to throw Jeffords out because he jumped. GWB carried 30 and 31 states in his two elections -- all we have to do is get Republican Senators in Red states and hold onto a few other Senators in Blue states and we should get to 60 within a couple of elections.

Those people who think that can replace wobbly Republicans in New England states with conservatives are not realistic.

52 posted on 03/29/2005 7:52:13 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm
Jeffords, Snowe, Cantwell, McCain — whom have I left out?

Chafee!! And probably Collins, too.

53 posted on 03/29/2005 7:54:03 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: AmericanMade1776
The Vermont independent also said he expects to be the Republican Party's "No. 1 target."

Somebody wants the Vermont Democrats to remember that he's not really "independent".

Hey, Jim, take a look over your left shoulder, will ya?

54 posted on 03/29/2005 7:55:25 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: sure_fine
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55 posted on 03/29/2005 7:56:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard (....tick.... tick.... tick.... tick....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
If there's anything that will get the money flowing, it's the invocation of the VRWC. Unless Vermonters are tired of being the butt of political jokes (Dean, Sanders, Jeffords and Leahy makes Leahy the most sane pol in the state.), they'll not vote Republican. Unless...

...it's a 3-way race.

56 posted on 03/29/2005 7:57:44 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

What a geek! And I'm saying this as a mathematician.


57 posted on 03/29/2005 8:00:19 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: You Dirty Rats
The state that sends Bernie Sanders and Pat Leahy to Congress is not going to throw Jeffords out because he jumped.

Yes, but the state that needs milk subsidies may find itself wanting a Senator in the majority. Or at least not getting too worked up if a real Democrat syphons off his votes.

If Jeffords gets some Democrat money and has no Democrat opponent, he'll win easily. Otherwise, he might have to campaign.

58 posted on 03/29/2005 8:17:51 PM PST by AmishDude (The Clown Prince-in-a-can of Free Republic!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

He didn't mind being a Republican when he was using GOP cash to get his senate seat back in 2000. He sounds like somebody that already expects to loose - he ought to run as a Democrat.

So, where can I send my money to help defeat this defeatist loser!

"Well can’t you see me standing here,
I’ve got my back against the record machine
I ain’t the worst that you’ve seen.
Oh can’t you see what I mean ?
Might as well jump. jump !
Go ahead, jump.
Might as well jump. jump !
Go ahead, jump."


59 posted on 04/08/2005 2:34:36 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Lord, help your poor and faithful servant to remain faithful,...though not necessarily poor.")
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To: AmericanMade1776
[Jeffords] said he expects to be the Republican Party's "No. 1 target."

If the GOP starts dining a bit more at Taco Bell, maybe Jefford's can be the GOP's "No. 2 target" as well.

60 posted on 04/08/2005 2:43:31 PM PDT by Liberator
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