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What Greer is doing and all the courts have ignored is denying her the opportunity to have food or water by mouth. That is euthanasia and is not permitted under Florida law. Whether she could take water or not is immaterial and in any case we don't know what would happen, at least it would give her a chance and she has none right now. On this order at least the Shindler's have the law on their side -- giving water by mouth is not in any shape, fashion or form artificial life support as mentioned in the Florida statute. Any outcome of a trial of drinking, even death by choking, is preferable to what is going on now.

What I cannot figure out is why Jeb Bush and her parents are so focused on getting the feeding tube back in when it is clear that this will not happen when this other clearly illegal order by Greer is alpparently going unchallenged.


8 posted on 03/26/2005 3:21:00 AM PST by politeia
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To: politeia

If she were to choke to death from water, they would be liable probably. Plus causing mass hysteria.


9 posted on 03/26/2005 3:23:58 AM PST by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: politeia

Judge Death ordered that no one may attempt to feed or give hydration to Terri orally. They will be arrested if they try. Welcome to George Felos' brave new world. I believe the whole world is watching this horrific act and the U.S. is going to look like a bunch of ghoulish fools. Even those countries that practice various forms of euthanasia, they can't imagine being this cruel, starving & dehydrating a perfectly healthy woman to death. I can't imagine it, either.


11 posted on 03/26/2005 3:30:08 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: politeia

Whether she could take water or not is immaterial and in any case we don't know what would happen, at least it would give her a chance and she has none right now.

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In the past Terri has sucked fluids from a baby bottle !!!


12 posted on 03/26/2005 3:33:12 AM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: politeia
What I cannot figure out is why Jeb Bush and her parents are so focused on getting the feeding tube back in when it is clear that this will not happen when this other clearly illegal order by Greer is alpparently going unchallenged.

And the absence of that specific challenge will be used against them later.

The law, which is supposed to serve society protect the individual, is acting against its charter.

22 posted on 03/26/2005 4:00:19 AM PST by Cboldt
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Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

There is a terrible logic to (the Schiavo) situation. From what I have read, Schiavo is a test case of the Right to die movement (DIE) "to establish a legal precedent to end the lives of the disabled using hearsay evidence" ( http://www.lifenews.com/bio186.html ). Also, with the looming crisis in Social Security and the national health care debate, those cases of catastophic costs for certain people, e.g., the disabled, infirm, aged, handicapped, schizophrenic or otherwise mentally diseased, those who need transplants, etc., become targets of a synthesis of carrying capacity meets implementation of Marx's theory of abstract labor and the costs of care.

DIE has moved to redefine American consciousness according to a strategy enacted in three stages: "Professional Education, Institutional Change, and Public Engagement." ( http://home.earthlink.net/~joyinlife/ ) As part of this strategy, the religious element is problematic, and so, must be diffused with 'dignity therapy.' "Spirituality is consistently defined as a critical domain in end-of-life care; research on interventions to improve spiritual well-being is very limited. Preliminary evidence of a specific intervention—dignity therapy—shows positive outcomes for both the patient and family." In Terri Schiavo's case, the guardian's legal representation comes from DIE, as do the Schiavo doctors. Clearly, as she has been in a hospice for years, this having been petitioned since 1997, although she is not terminally ill Terri has been marked for death for some time. ( http://www.thedavidallenshow.com/topics/terrishiavo/20050228.somethingsfishy/20050228.lawschange )

That being said, in Florida, in 1999, food and water (hydration) was added to language of the law that defined artificial means. ( http://www.thedavidallenshow.com/topics/terrishiavo/20050228.somethingsfishy/20050228.lawschange ) DIE advocates using a combination of dehydration and morphine to promote death. ( http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21770 ) This has cleared the way for other, more chilling recommendations to be made by 'experts.' Witness: In Florida's Interim report from the Panel for the Study on End of Life Care (1999), among the findings is the "Recommend(ation) that the Florida Legislature remove from F.S. 765 the requirement that a person be
“terminally ill” before life-prolonging procedures can be withheld or withdrawn. [1 dissenting vote]" ( http://www.thedavidallenshow.com/topics/terrishiavo/20050228.somethingsfishy/20050228.lawschange )

From the same website: "Research indicates that the cost of hospice care in Florida results in an overall savings of Medicare dollars; a Lewin study reports that Medicare saves $.52 for every dollar spent on hospice care." It really is all about the money. Welcome to the Gulag and the USSA.


Also, be careful what you write in a living will, as it can be used against you. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1370458/posts


103 posted on 03/26/2005 6:42:36 AM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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