"Hmmm. Maybe those Chinks aren't so bad after all."
Posted on 03/25/2005 4:06:48 PM PST by Michael2001
"How come the United States selects a female chimpanzee as Secretary of State?"
"This black woman thinks rather a lot of herself."
"She's so ugly she's losing face. Even a dog would be put off its dinner while she's being fed."
The 5000 years of civilisation on which the Chinese pride themselves were not so evident this week in the comments on Condoleezza Rice's visit to Beijing posted on the internet site "New Tide Net".
As monitored by the media analyst Liu Xiaobo, the overall tone of the 800 postings was hostile and about 10 per cent were racist, sexist or both, reflecting what Mr Liu calls a pervasive phobia here about dark-skinned races.
Similar undercurrents well up in neighbouring South Korea and Japan, which Dr Rice also visited on her introductory Asian tour as Washington's foreign minister.
Although Dr Rice's public comments here about the touchy subjects of Taiwan, North Korea and China's domestic freedoms were restrained, the visit capped a frustrating episode for the leadership.
The "Anti-Secession Law" passed by the rubber-stamp Chinese parliament this month, designed to quelch moves towards formal independence in Taiwan, has boomeranged on Beijing.
On Saturday afternoon in Taipei, President Chen Shui-bian will orchestrate a massive protest against the law and its threat of "non-peaceful means" should Taiwan's politicians step beyond the law's ill-defined markers.
International opinion, especially in the democratic countries where Beijing needs to improve support for its Taiwan policies, has been generally critical of the law, with Dr Rice calling it "unhelpful".
Most embarrassing of all, the anti-secession law has slowed and possibly derailed the push by Germany and France to lift the European Union's arms embargo on China, imposed after the 1989 massacre around Tiananmen Square in Beijing.
The law was cited by the British Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, as a new obstacle. Britain had been supporting the lifting of the ban, but this week signalled that it wanted to postpone a decision because of US concerns.
Several other European states are also opposed - including Italy, Sweden and Belgium.
The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, has made it clear his government would back a lifting of the embargo only if a strong code regulating arms sales to China had already been adopted. President Jacques Chirac of France, who has been arguing that lifting the embargo was a face-saver for Beijing rather than clearance for large-scale military exports, may be kept to his word.
The backlash will be all the more galling for Chinese leaders because they genuinely seem to feel that the anti-secession law is a moderate document rather than a sabre-rattling threat, as it has been widely interpreted.
The idea of such a law was first mentioned in August, in the wake of Mr Chen's re-election as president last March and with the prospect of his ruling party gaining a majority in the Taiwan legislature in December elections, helping its prospects of passing constitutional changes that the Chinese fear would amount to de jure independence.
Mr Chen's Democratic Progressive Party actually flopped in the December election. But by then so many drums had been beaten in Beijing about the anti-secession law it may have been seen as impossible to drop it without great loss of face.
Some analysts see the final version as actually intended to give the Chinese President and Communist Party leader, Hu Jintao, a lot more flexibility in his dealings with Taiwan than under the policy straitjacket left by his predecessor, Jiang Zemin.
The law is noticeable for not explicitly pushing a "one country-two systems" settlement, and its main article about talks and negotiations does not set the condition that Taiwan must accept it is part of "one China" - although the one-China principle is mentioned elsewhere.
The authorisation of "non-peaceful means" as a "last resort" is also seen as tipping graduated sanctions rather than an abrupt use of force.
However, what works in the byzantine political milieu of the Great Hall of the People and the nearby Zhongnanhai leadership compound does not always sell itself in the outside world.
This week, China's official media were reduced to reporting solemnly that support for the anti-secession law had come from such statesmen as Sonatane Tu'akinamolahi Taumoepeau-Tupou, Foreign Minister of Tonga, and Abu Bakr Abdullah al-Kurbi, Foreign Minister of Yemen.
Hence, perhaps, the dark thoughts Beijing has allowed to surface on the internet.
" Sounds to me like a bunch of people on an internet forum lost their manners, not "China."
That was my reading also.
deserves a jd ping
Orientals, aka "asians", are very racist, particularly concerning black people.
>Han Chinese have a HUGE superiority complex, both in terms of race as well as the Chinese heritage.
>Disgusting!
"Hello, Kettle. This is Pot."
"Hmmm. Maybe those Chinks aren't so bad after all."
Is one of my favorite ditties overheard at a US playground.
Their are 1,136,703,824 Han Chinese 92% or the majority. I never knew their were so many (56) tribes.
Chinese Nationalities and Their Populations
Tatar Lady
Some? Only some? ;-)
Yep, my thoughts, too.
The MSM and DNC can probably log onto this "Chinese" site and post comments.
Asians in general have a strong prejudice against black people - there's no doubt about that. Furthermore, I think among the younger generation of Chinese there is a strong current of nationalism that many subscribe to that incorporates ideas of racial and cultural superiority of the Chinese. To them, the fact that we have a black secretary of state is only a sign of America's racial weakness.
Don't worry - we're not. In fact, I'd say that this nation, alone among all others, is the model for real racial harmony.
Actually the number of tribes you quote (56) is an amalgamation of many smaller but ethnically distince tribes made by the Beijing government.
In truth there are more than 500 different people groups in the PRC. See this reference for more info: http://www.ywam.org/books/operation_china.htm
"My first reaction is this is a totally bogus story ... made up by the MSM and the DNC to tar and feather our conservative black Condi. Can anyone prove otherwise?"
I've been visiting Chinese message boards for about 10 years and in my experience this is actually relatively tame. There is worse...much, much worse. Whether this is sentiment of the average Chinese, who knows? But why should there be any doubt that there is some segment of the Chinese population that feels this way and expresses it on the Internet?
But not that much different than some of the cartoons leftist scribblers have been churning out depicting Secretary Rice in what can only be called a flatly racist caricature.
They get away with it because they're the "Party of Tolerance & Compassion," don't ya know? Just like their communist buddies overseas...
No wonder Genghis Khan wanted to kill them all!
Well, considering this 2005, and Colin Powell was the Secretary of State for 4 years, and these "racial" viewpoints (of which they constitute only 10% and of them, some of them are sexist, according to this article) are only being spoken now.
I would say your on target, this is an oppurtunity for the writer to say things they would not normally be able to say by using quotes attributed to others, sort of like wanting to call somone dumb, so you find somone else who called that person dumb and print it, its your ideas by proxy, a common media tactic thats been around for years.
I'd agree, to give you an example, unlike say India, we don't riot because of affirmative action programs, in other countries, racial problems usually incur violence and rioting, and sometimes killing.
Here when its a riot, its a major thing and also a very very rare occurance.
The "gooks", to take a page from their lexicon describing our esteemed Secretary of State, have a long way to learn/apply Western Manners!
They are by far the most racist people I have ever met.
Further more they are the most inconsiderate, upknoctious and rude people I have ever dealt with.
Cheapskates to boot!
They laugh you and Jew you down all the way to the bank, and get away with it. They will never give a job position to anybody but, of their own race.
Based on my talks to some of the Americanized Chinese kids, they have an inner ego trip of sort/show off if you will, where by the brand of car you drive it sort of shows your societal position within their ranks.
I live in So-Cal most dominated Asian communities.(Arcadia, Monrovia , San Marino)...they own the cities(clean, nice, manicured lawns) and the choice of car?
Only BMW, Mercedes Benz, Land Rover, Porsche Cayenne, Rolls, Bentley you get the drift.
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