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1 posted on 03/25/2005 3:50:14 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

They introduced the bill.

Will it pass?

Will it be signed?

Will some black-robed demon call IT unconstitutional?


2 posted on 03/25/2005 3:55:37 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: churchillbuff
Exodus 20: 13 "You shall not murder.

B'shem Yshua
chuck

3 posted on 03/25/2005 3:55:53 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua <==> YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: churchillbuff

What's a 'CEO'.....?


4 posted on 03/25/2005 3:56:10 PM PST by maestro
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Judgenfuhrer Greer: "What part of I-can-have-you-killed-at-will don't you handicapped, Catholics and Jews understand?
I suggest you kneel before Zod or you will starve or burn at my choice."

HEALTHFUL DRINKS AND WARM MEALS SINCE THE ORDER-TO-MURDER-AN-INVALID BY JUDGE GREER
Murderer-At-Will Judge Greer 32
......................... Terri Shiavo 0
.......................... Lee Malvo 25
.......................... Scott Peterson 24

5 posted on 03/25/2005 3:57:09 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: churchillbuff

basic human needs should not be considered medical treatment. I dont consider myself receiving medical treatment when my parents fed me while I was a kid. Also if Michael is considered the legal guardian by law, doesnt this force him to do whatever he can in his means to provide the basic needs of life including water and food. I know if my legal guardians when i was a kid refused me food and water, theyd be locked up. As far as im ocncerned, he is committing murder and he should be put on trial if she dies.


6 posted on 03/25/2005 3:58:49 PM PST by AlbertaBeef
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To: churchillbuff

Greer is the poster person for what evil has gripped America.


8 posted on 03/25/2005 4:08:12 PM PST by marty60
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To: churchillbuff

But Greer is a Baptist, or at least he was until he had a split with them. Greer could care less about this Rabbi.


12 posted on 03/25/2005 4:12:48 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: churchillbuff

What goes around, comes around. Maybe Judge Greer will one day find himself in Terri's position.


14 posted on 03/25/2005 4:18:25 PM PST by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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To: churchillbuff

God man, Rabbi!


20 posted on 03/25/2005 4:24:50 PM PST by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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The Hebrew really says, "thou shall not MURDER." And one is forbidden to hasten the death of a person NOT in imminent danger of dying. The bloodguilt for her death will be on the heads of those who ordered it. They will not escape God's judgment for their mortal sin...

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
22 posted on 03/25/2005 4:27:12 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: churchillbuff
But if Terri had a Living Will then, "Thou Shall Kill And That's Cool With Everybody"?

And that makes perfect sense to everyone here?

25 posted on 03/25/2005 4:45:13 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: nutmeg

read later


27 posted on 03/25/2005 5:08:04 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: churchillbuff

In retrospect, it seems that Terri had the misfortune to MARRY a person who was, and is a real SCOUNDREL.


30 posted on 03/25/2005 5:26:27 PM PST by noah (noah)
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As Jews and Christians we must stand together to stop this evil. God will not look away forever from the wickedness that mankind has descended to.
31 posted on 03/25/2005 5:37:38 PM PST by conservativecorner
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This is the first Jewish leader to speak out - that I've heard!

It's about time!!

Remember the holocaust and the people who starved there?
How easily it is forgotten.


33 posted on 03/25/2005 6:20:56 PM PST by It's me
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"What part of 'Thou shalt not kill' do you not understand?"

The answer to that question, to paraphrase our great former president, is "It depends on what the meaning of 'kill' is."


37 posted on 03/25/2005 6:31:06 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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PEOPLE v. ARCHERD (1970) 3 C3d 615

"...The lapse of time between the various offenses and the indictment of defendant on July 27, 1967, is considerable but is adequately explained by the record. The murder weapon in each case was unique, insulin. The deaths of each of these victims were initially attributed to causes other than a criminal agency. Suspicion of insulin and of defendant as the person administering the insulin was not aroused until the death of Zella in 1956. It was not until years later, after much painstaking and persistent investigation by law enforcement officers, and the discovery of advances made in {Page 3 Cal.3d 621} medical knowledge and techniques, that sufficient evidence could be accumulated to charge defendant with these deaths. Unfortunately, by then other of defendant's victims had lost their lives. This is the only known reported case of murder by insulin poisoning in the United States. Only one other, reported world-wide, occurred in England in 1956. ..."

"...Dr. Grace Fern Thomas, a psychiatrist and an expert in insulin shock therapy, and director of the insulin shock department at the time defendant was at Camarillo, testified as to the procedures on the ward. A precise dosage of insulin was measured for each person at a particular time. At a specific level that patient would go into shock in approximately two hours after the injection. Patients do not progress at the same level. Careful watch must be kept of the pulse, color, blood pressure, general condition, and neurological signs, such as pupillary changes and body motions. When a patient is going into progressive stages of coma he sweats very profusely and breathes very heavily. Saliva is secreted in large amounts, mucous flows freely and mixes with the saliva, and the patient must be carefully watched, turned, or assisted so that he does not aspirate the fluid into his lungs. Otherwise bronchopneumonia may develop, leading to death. The gag reflex and the cornea reflex are lost. Convulsions may occur, and medication is given to prevent this. The extremities may stiffen. At a relatively deep level of coma the Babinski test (scatching the sole of the foot in a certain manner) will cause a reflex known as the Babinski response (toes fan out). The patient must be brought out of the coma within 10-15 minutes thereafter. This is done by administering glucose through gastric tubes, and if this is not effective, glucose is administered intravenously to raise the blood sugar.

If the brain is deprived of blood sugar for a prolonged period irreversible brain damage and death may result.

As soon as a patient is fed glucose he awakens and is hungry. Only regular insulin was used in the ward because it was the only insulin where the time of coma could be calculated for therapeutic use. Injections began with small doses, very gradually increased over a three-week period..."
41 posted on 03/25/2005 7:45:11 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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I keep thinking....

If MS took a hammer and beat Terri about the head right now until she died, would he not be charged with murder? If someone pulled Kervorkian out of jail and allowed him to inject Terri with some concoction that killed her, would he not be convicted of murder? (speaking of which, all this incident does raise the spectre of a Kervorkian appeal, mark my words)

By definition, this would mean that Terri is alive. And to withhold food and water for any number of days, would constitute neglect of any living person, by anyone's standard.

So how is it that MS and Judge Greer could possibly avoid being charged with neglect (in MS's case) and conspiracy to commit murder?

45 posted on 03/25/2005 8:01:13 PM PST by cincinnati65 (Just up the road a piece.......)
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To: churchillbuff

A Bump in the Celebration of Life!


52 posted on 03/25/2005 8:37:02 PM PST by harpo11
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