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Posted on 03/25/2005 9:39:52 AM PST by MissTargets
Here is another article, that I found rather amusing.
Maybe he had one of those newfangled Belgian pistols that have gotten such bad press. I wonder if he actually had the kevlar piercing ammo, or that was just a figment of the bad press that the pistol has gotten. Maybe the police were more upset about which weapon he had than the fact that he didn't have it in plain sight, and that's why (allegedly) telling them about it wasn't good enough.
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So, we are talking about the new FN pistol that fires the same ammo the P-90 does?
I am not totally sure the ammo out there right now is really ammo piercing. I don't THINK it is, as a matter of fact.
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It sounds like that's the case - the price just about guarantees that it's a FiveSeven (I refuse to use the goofy capitalization). However, the Teflon "cop killer" ammo was never made in 5.7; they're smoking crack if they think that's what's in that pistol. Standard hollowpoints, that's all.
Translation "We are going after this man with a vengence and we will not rest until he is dead or in prison for life. how dare this peon try to muscle in on our territory and protect himself. if this catches on there will not be aneed for as many police to protect the peons and some of us will lose our jobs and have to work for a living."
There now the article is accurate
5.7mm bump. Bet he didn't have AP ammo.
Date updated: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 Ohio's Concealed Carry Law makes it Mandatory to notify a police officer that you are carrying a concealed handgun and have a license to do so.
This law will apply to you even if you are merely a passenger in a motor vehicle. The officer may or may not ask you to produce your license and may or may not ask to take possession of your firearm for the duration of the traffic stop. The law specifically prohibits the officer from keeping your firearm if you are released.
Vital: During a traffic stop you should never make any movement that could be considered reaching for or touching your firearm. Besides the common sense reasons, if you are charged with touching your firearm at any time during a traffic stop the charges are a felony.
Sec. 2923.126.
(A) If a licensee is the driver or an occupant of a motor vehicle that is stopped as the result of a traffic stop or a stop for another law enforcement purpose and if the licensee is transporting or has a loaded handgun in the motor vehicle at that time, the licensee shall promptly inform any law enforcement officer who approaches the vehicle while stopped that the licensee has been issued a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun and that the licensee currently possesses or has a loaded handgun; the licensee shall comply with lawful orders of a law enforcement officer given while the motor vehicle is stopped, shall remain in the motor vehicle while stopped, and shall keep the licensee's hands in plain sight while any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves, unless directed otherwise by a law enforcement officer; and the licensee shall not knowingly remove, attempt to remove, grasp, or hold the loaded handgun or knowingly have contact with the loaded handgun by touching it with the licensee's hands or fingers, in any manner in violation of division (E) of section 2923.16 of the Revised Code, while any law enforcement officer begins approaching the licensee while stopped and before the officer leaves. If a law enforcement officer otherwise approaches a person who has been stopped for a law enforcement purpose, if the person is a licensee, and if the licensee is carrying a concealed handgun at the time the officer approaches, the licensee shall promptly inform the officer that the licensee has been issued a license or temporary emergency license to carry a concealed handgun and that the licensee currently is carrying a concealed handgun.
Sec. 2923.126.
(A) A licensee who has been issued a license under section 2923.125 or 2923.1213 of the Revised Code may carry a concealed handgun anywhere in this state if the licensee also carries a valid license and valid identification when the licensee is in actual possession of a concealed handgun.
None of the stuff that was actually intended to be armor piercing has ever been sold to civilians in the US. There were some defective hollowpoint rounds that actually got out to civilian sales that will penetrate IIA vests (cavity too small, jacket material too strong) but that was only a few cases worth and it was recalled/withdrawn as soon as someone found out. The standard ammo for sale in 5.7 is a hollowpoint that won't penetrate soft body armor (unless you're stupid enough to order and wear level I armor).
"Joseph said he received his permit in November and purchased the weapon and ammunition shortly thereafter in Austintown because it was something relatively new on the market and "supposed to be state-of-the-art.''
"I've never even fired it yet,'' he said. "
It's not a good idea to carry a weapon that you have never fired and that has not been thoroughly tested with your carry ammo. Since I don't beleive that armor piercing bullets such as KTW are available for sale to the general public, I doubt his ammo was of the "cop killer" variety.
You are correct:
While there is "armor piercing" ammo for the Five seveN, it's not available in this country, not to commoners, anyway.
OTOH, just about any non-hollow-point round from a .44 mag will defeat any body armor you can carry around...
Drummed into us a part of CCW Training. One MUST advise police upon stop that you either are or are not carrying. When stop is made, they already know if the driver has a permit.
NO excuse for forgetting.
I won't buy that. If you're carrying, you know it.
Maybe he didn't no the law made him a criminal for remaining silent?
He had a permit to carry. I'm not sure if OH is like FL but you're supposed to know the section of the law that deals w/ carrying, and ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law.
Maybe because it it none of the cop's business (and the law does not make it the cop's business.)
According to OH law it is.
Can't buy it (the ap ammo) commercially........ I have searched to see if it was available to the sheeple and it is NOT !
If someone has some then it is stolen from some gooobermint or local LEO or DOD..... I suppose some of the contractors in country could get it yet that would be a DSS sanctioned PO also .
The issue here is the CHL laws pretty much require one to inform the officer on a traffic stop that he's carrying per the states CHL laws. It's also a polite act to inform the officer that s/he is not carrying if the weapon is not present in the vehicle or on their person because if ya fail to follow that simple rule they will run yer plate and get a code back that says CHL is issued to you and assume that for some reason yer keepin that a secret so it's felony stop time and more BS than it's just worth.
If we are gonna let em rent our RKBA's back to us then there is always a lease agreement from the slum lords that we have to follow. Notifying the LEO of your carry status in the traffic stop is key to avoiding a shitstorm of BS and paperwork and little gator fees etc etc etc ......
As to the FN that is an agenda gun .....never mind the 7.62x25 ball ammo used in 60 (+/-) year old CZ 52's and Tok's Bolo's etc . Or a TC Contender pistol in a rifle caliber etc etc ....... the only valid evil in the VPC Idiots , their supporters and sheeple who swallow such disinformational sh*t'n shineola in this world is black plastic.....
Presstitutes evidently get a dollar kickback from the socialist grabbers for every mention of an agenda gun it reports at the rate they spew this BS.....
Just my opinion of course .......Stay safe !
I'd call em eager accomplices.
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