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Felos on Fox, 03/25/05
FoxNews | 03/25/05 | GRRRRR

Posted on 03/25/2005 4:17:20 AM PST by GRRRRR

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To: StonyBurk

Felos is absolutely tone deaf when it comes to the hard questions about life. How does Felos know what Terri wanted? Just because Michael Schavio told Felos doesn't make it so....Felos is a punk.


21 posted on 03/25/2005 6:08:07 AM PST by smiley
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To: GRRRRR; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
It's absolutely shocking that we had to go to court and get an order restraining the state from abusing terri when it should be the state that protects its citizens.

I heard him say almost the same thing yesterday. Talk about Doublespeak.

22 posted on 03/25/2005 6:16:58 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA
>> Why do you say that? I think terri loved michael. I think terri would want michael to be happy and to have some degree of happiness in his lifE. So i disagree with you.

He almost seems to be turning into John Edwards

How does Felos know what Terri would think

Is Felos saying that Terri wouldn't have a problem with MS breaking the marriage vows they made before God?

23 posted on 03/25/2005 8:27:56 AM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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24 posted on 03/25/2005 8:50:16 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Diogenesis
Has Greer been bribed????

25 posted on 03/25/2005 9:02:53 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: GRRRRR
This guy creeps me out...you can pick up a very very vile spirit in this man!!!

26 posted on 03/25/2005 9:05:47 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Diogenesis
"... this poor woman is being desiccated to destroy evidence." That is precisely why the Republican lead Congress has laying at its feet the death of Terri Schiavo ... they issued a subpoena that they are now ignoring as judge Greer executes Terri for just what they instructed should not be done ... the destruction of evidence! I guess an Easter Holiday is more important to them than Terri's LIFE maintained to fulfill their deceptive subpoena.
27 posted on 03/25/2005 9:14:35 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: GRRRRR

And some funny bunny calling itself skip to my lou wanted
to play what if? Really got to deal with what is known.
We don't know "if"/Terri ever wanted to be starved and
dehydrated. Felos is like too many greasy attorneys -their
morality changes with every case. And they do not care about Justice- or Truth- or the principles upon which American Law rests. If Felos is like Greer - a pretend
Christian - or even if he is Jew -or any who have reason
to know God and the covenantbut separate themselves from it they bring upon themselves the curses written in the Book-my purpose is to remind them of their error.


28 posted on 03/25/2005 12:15:04 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: OXENinFLA; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; Grampa Dave; Lady Jag; ...
FELOS IN CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH JUDGE GREER:

Donated to Judge's Election
29 posted on 03/25/2005 2:23:13 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY to 2008 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Smartass; Cool Multiservice Soldier; OneLoyalAmerican; Defender2; The Sailor; txradioguy; ...

FELOS IN CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH JUDGE GREER:

Donated to Judge's Election

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43493


30 posted on 03/25/2005 2:34:35 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (1st it's Terri Then it's ..... Then it's those "complain" on the internet. Then it's YOU!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT...MUD


31 posted on 03/25/2005 2:37:22 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (The Culture War shall be won by the RightWingers who choose to fight it!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk - this story sickens me beyond belief. These people have no soul.


32 posted on 03/25/2005 2:48:26 PM PST by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: Diogenesis
When you have a child and you have a second child, you don't love the second child any lelS. The fact that michael loves two women and he's been fortunate enough to find someone after terrI's cardiac arrest that he could share part of his life, i think is a good thing

I don't think you can equate loving children the same way you could love an ex and a current lover. Sorry, I don't think it's the same at all and I think ED should have nailed him on that one. So she's been married before and do you think she would let her ex say when it's time for her to go?

33 posted on 03/25/2005 3:24:29 PM PST by queenkathy (I'm praying for that God will perform a miracle.)
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To: StarCMC

I agree. In the end these people will have to account for their actions.


34 posted on 03/25/2005 3:51:04 PM PST by smokeyb
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To: StarCMC

Paganism and paganistic human sacrifice is alive and well in Pinellas County.


35 posted on 03/25/2005 4:00:22 PM PST by dennisw ("What is Man that thou art mindful of him")
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To: StonyBurk

I read a post here that said he was a member of the Hemlock society. A society dedicated to legalizing suicide.

A proper representative would have been able to reach a reasonable settlement. A proper attorney ad litem, not the ringer appointed by the judge, would have been a zelous advocate for life absent any written document an a husband who had MS circumstances. There would be room for reason.

MSchiavo was surrounded and diverted by crusaders who wanted to establish case law (legislate via the courts) one step closer to legal suicide and then legal presumption of duty to die.

Terri's legacy is going to be using the legislature to trump those mandatory efforts. The only question is what will Terri's law contain. (perhaps a Terri's law I, Terri's law II, etc.)

First step may very well be for FL to mandate the presumption of life in the absence of a written document. Additionally it should require the court to use current infidelity as evidence of unfitness to be a guardian of a spouse. (IOW only present cheating/cohabiting.)

I know FL will have a Terri's law II now.


36 posted on 03/25/2005 4:05:09 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: smiley

It seems to me that since this creep is on the board of directors of the Hospice where Terri is, he should have recused himself.
She has been in Hospice for two years, why? Seems she should have been in a convalescent hospital


37 posted on 03/25/2005 4:08:07 PM PST by Burlem
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump!


38 posted on 03/25/2005 4:29:47 PM PST by JLO (I always TRY to live up to be MN nice)
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To: shield
Felos has a warped view of death. He is a new age whack job. He gets off on the dying process. If you ask me he's plain nuts. If you or I had delusions of grandeur, was on a mission from God, and had auditory hallucinations we would be on some MAJOR drugs.

Excerpts from Litigation as Spiritual Practice by George Felos (Blue Dolphin Publishing, 2002) Compiled by James A. Smith Sr., executive editor, Florida Baptist Witness Published November 6, 2003

Chapter Five, “Death and Resurrection,” describes Felos’ significant spiritual experience during a ten day retreat at the Kirpalu Center for Yoga and Health in Lenox, Mass., in April, 1988. The experience “birthed a personal transformation of immense and unexpected proportions. I came to the retreat in April, 1988, wanting a change in my life and was returning home with my old life vaporized.” (47)

Felos writes that although he experienced his “initial spiritual awakening in my early twenties, I had spent the last few years of my mid-thirties backsliding.” (47)

Described as “a superconscious experience,” Felos writes, “I was drunk with God” resulting in the inability to walk on his own without the assistance of others. “My predominant expression was laughter and a grin just short of it.” (49) “I had imprinted upon me the purpose of life—God-realization—and in the knowing of this purpose came instant fulfillment. Although to some I reckon the above sounds like metaphysical gobbledygook, I will attest there exists a Universal Consciousness that not only can be experienced by us but is us.” (50)

“I lost the boundary between the idea of myself and the world around me and gained immeasurably. Subject and object merged, and in some way I experienced the essence of each thing my consciousness touched. I felt the joy of grass as it grew and sense the genetic code by which it manifested into physical reality. In ecstasy I became the solemn grace and beauty of a tree and new the freedom of the passing clouds. I don’t speak metaphorically.” (50) He then cites Isaiah 55:12. (51)

He describes the same experience with other individuals at the center: “When I perceived and felt someone so completely, I often could hear her thoughts and knew what she was going to say before she said it. It was as if the individual before me was transparent and I could see the person’s form, yet look through it at the same time.” (51)

While on the plane ride home from the retreat, Felos reads a book about “conscious dying” written by a meditation teacher who is active in hospice work, which “described the enormous potential for spiritual awakening, both for the patient and the caregiver, which sometimes is realized during the death process.” (53)

“Scripture says neither hands, nor feet, nor emotion, nor mind, nor body are we. Our death—the permanent separation of our spirit, our consciousness, from the body—if experienced with awareness, can provide the opportunity to dispel the greatest of illusions: that we are this body. The author goes on to describe how meditation and spiritual practice is the process of dying—the means by which we extinguish our ego and body identification and realize we are the expression and manifestation of the Divine. Pretty heady stuff, especially for one who had just died and been reborn, so to speak. I deeply connected with the message of this book, and as I gazed out the window upon the clouds and surface below, I felt death move a bit closer.” (53)

His first legal appointment after returning from the retreat at the yoga center was with Doris F. Herbert, the cousin of Estelle Browning, seeking his assistance in the removal of her feeding tube. (54)

Felos became consumed with yoga and meditation following his retreat, including three or four hours per day to the point that his wife and those close to him were “disturbed by and concerned with my abrupt and radical change and believed I was close to becoming nonfunctional.” (55)

“I had not ‘adopted’ some new philosophy nor decided to ‘operate’ under some new belief system. I was part of a process so compelling that my participation wasn’t optional.” (56)

“The mystics have said that this world, this universe, is nothing but the thought-form of God. In Genesis, God intended that there be light and there was light. Christ fed the multitudes with only a handful of fish, not because he was a sushi master, but because he had the deepest realization that matter is an expression of mind and spirit. This creative power is not exclusive to the Divine, but comes as part of our birthright. We are made in the image of God. This does not refer to having two arms, two legs, and a head. It means that in some way we naturally possess the attributes and qualities of the Universal Consciousness. I believe Christ intended his life on Earth to be an example—a testament of what is possible for us. We are not only instructed to worship God, but to ‘become sons of God’ (John 1:12).” (60, italics in the original).

This discussion occurs in the midst of his description of his first meeting with Mrs. Herbert to discuss the case of Mrs. Browning and his joy with having this kind of legal case to deal with. “After she departed it seemed evident to me that the case, given my recently acquired fascination with death and dying, was a blessing rather than a coincidence.” (61)

Felos visits Mrs. Browning for the first time. Browning, who was radically debilitated by a stroke, was a resident of a nursing home for more than a year and one-half when Mrs. Herbert, her cousin and caregiver, sought to have the feeding tube removed, honoring Mrs. Browning living will.

He writes of his meeting, including a “soul-speak” conversation: “‘Mrs. Browning, do you want to die? … Do you want to die?’—I near shouted as I continued to peer into her pools of strikingly beautiful but incognizant blue. It was so eerie. Her eyes were wide open and crystal clear, but instead of the warmth of lucidity, they burned with the ice of expressionlessness.” (63) Felos notes that Browning was not in a coma and she was “more than vegetative, as she appeared able at times to interact with her environment in a rudimentary way.” (68) Chapter Eight, “Soul-Speak” “As I continued to stay beside Mrs. Browning at her nursing home bed, I felt my mind relax and my weight sink into the ground. I began to feel light-headed as I became more reposed. Although feeling like I could drift into sleep, I also experienced a sense of heightened awareness. As Mrs. Browning lay motionless before my gaze, I suddenly heard a loud, deep moan and scream and wondered if the nursing home personnel heard it and would respond to the unfortunate resident. In the next moment, as this cry of pain and torment continued, I realized it was Mrs. Browning. I felt the mid-section of my body open and noticed a strange quality to the light in the room. I sensed her soul in agony. As she screamed I heard her say, in confusion, ‘Why am I still here … why am I here?’ My soul touched hers and in some way I communicated that she was still locked in her body. I promised I would do everything in my power to gain the release her soul cried for. With that the screaming immediately stopped. I felt like I was back in my head again, the room resumed its normal appearance, and Mrs. Browning, as she had throughout this experience, lay silent.” (73) “I knew without a doubt what had transpired was real and dispelled the thought as intellect’s attempt to assert its own version of reality.” (73)

As proof of the existence of “soul-speak,” as he calls it, Felos cites an incident with his wife years before concerning their yet-to-be-conceived, unborn son. At this time there was disagreement between he and his wife about whether they should have children. One day at his office, Felos was “hammerstuck. While almost seeing stars like a comic book character, I heard the soul of my yet-to-be-conceived child emphatically shout: ‘I’m ready to be born…will you stop this fooling around!’ … The voice I heard was distinctly male, and I beamed with the idea I had a son—or was going to have a son—or sorta had a son out there—or something like that.” (75) Later, when his wife told him of having a similar experience that day. “I had no doubt we were beneficiaries of the same soul transmission…” (76)

[Later in the book, Felos describes another “soul-speak” conversation with Mrs. Browning the evening before the trial began in which he argued for removing her feeding tube. (216)]

In addition to other implicit and explicit suggestions of Felos’ belief in reincarnation, he discusses his previous existences and/or future existences or lifetimes (106, 138).

In a discussion of the “cosmic law of cause and effect,” Felos argues that we create our own physical realities with our mind, but most people do not understand their own power to change their life’s circumstances – even including the ability to make a new dream car appear “out of the ether.” (178-179) He cites as an example of this power, the biblical account of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead because Jesus concentrated solely on that act. “Jesus knew without any shred of doubt whatsoever that through God all things were possible. That is why Lazarus rose, and that same knowing is also why the mountain did come to Mohammed.” (179, italics in original)

Felos illustrates this power in his own life by describing an incident while on a plane during a time when he was engaged in a “right-to-die” case and had become very involved in the hospice movement. He pondered, “I wonder what it would be like to die right now?” and “indulged the thought by imagining the plane starting to lose it trajectory and descend.” The plane did, creating chaos in the cabin as people began to realize the plane was going to crash. “Needless to say, the juxtaposition of my imagined death and the possibility of a real demise heightened for me my different reactions. I assure you, my hubris in assuming that I would meet a life-ending crash with equanimity was not lost on me.” (181-182) The pilot later explained to the passengers that there was an unexplained problem with the auto pilot which caused the momentary descent. “At that instant a clear, distinctly independent and slightly stern voice said to me, ‘Be careful what you think. You are more powerful than you realize.’ In quick succession I was startled, humbled and blessed by God’s admonishment.” (182)

Felos describes himself as a “crusader” for the “right-to-die” in chapter 21, where he also admits to enjoying his status as a news celebrity, describing it as “exhilarating” to see himself on television. (217) Later he writes, “I was getting pretty good at trying my case in the media and shaping public opinion. … Developing a good ‘sound bite’ helped, but so did the media’s support of the cause. Some of my best quotes appeared on the editorial pages.” (238) Responding to media requests after Gov. Martinez vetoed (July 3, 1989) the bill permitting the removal feeding tubes which was initiated by the Browning case and moved along with the assistance of a “powerful state senator from Jacksonville” (230), Felos writes, “…there I was on the holiday news—Mrs. Browning’s white knight, stalwart at his covered desk, intently crafting her plea of last hope to the Supreme Court. Did I love it! And given the strenuous effort, I much appreciated the positive reinforcement.” (242)

Chapter 22, “Collective Consciousness and the Fear of Death,” has an extensive discussion of the hospice movement which Felos is deeply involved in, noting, “The force that created today’s Hospice also propels the right-to-die movement. We sense that keeping one alive against his wishes—artificially perpetuating the body once the spirit is ready to depart—is a defilement of life’s final rite of passage. It appeared so obvious to me that the ability to die with dignity, as that term is defined by each individual, is an essential personal right.” (223)

Concerning the Florida Supreme Court’s affirmation of his position in the Browning case (Mrs. Browning actually died while still being fed and before the case was argued before the Court): “A profound satisfaction welled up. I believed I had made a difference. The result of my efforts would touch many lives, now and in the future. I felt proud to be an attorney and was grateful to God for this extraordinary opportunity. I still am.” (251)

Concerning his involvement in a income tax case in Federal Tax Court (which he ultimately won), Felos writes about his feelings while doing yoga on the eve of the trial: “I felt like an empty vessel, a vehicle through which Spirit does its own work. I felt deep gratitude for being endowed with the abilities that allow this work to be done through me. In a sense I lost, at least for that moment, a personal agenda. I became an agent and God was the principal. All I needed to do was permit the work to come through me.” (268)


39 posted on 03/25/2005 4:45:09 PM PST by CajunConservative
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To: smiley

Felos can "soul speak" to the unconscious or even the preborn. Yep the man is a freaking loon. Make that a possessed loon.

Check the link in my previous post #39.


40 posted on 03/25/2005 4:50:07 PM PST by CajunConservative
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