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Dehydration death called 'cruel, agonizing'
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/24/05 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 03/24/2005 6:28:20 PM PST by wagglebee

Is pain a factor for Terri Schiavo?

While some news stories have suggested her starvation is painless, the head of the Christian Medical Association is debunking what he calls "the myth" that it does not involve pain.

"Contrary to those that try to paint a picture of a gentle process, death by dehydration is a cruel, inhumane and often agonizing death," said Dr. David Stevens, who says most so-called experts have never seen someone die under such circumstances.

"Unfortunately, having worked for 13 years in Africa, where the most common cause of death in children is dehydration from gastroenteritis, I have seen hundreds if not thousands of patients with dehydration and some of them so far gone, that despite resuscitation attempts, they died."

Stevens, who represents a group of 17,000 physicians, explained what happens with starvation:

As dehydration begins, there is extreme thirst, dry mouth and thick saliva. The patient becomes dizzy, faint and unable to stand or sit; has severe cramping in the arms and legs as the sodium and potassium concentrations in the body goes up as fluids go down. In misery, the patient tries to cry but there are no tears. The patient experiences severe abdominal cramps, nausea and dry-heaving as the stomach and intestines dry out.

By now the skin and lips are cracking and the tongue is swollen. The nose may bleed as the mucous membranes dry out and break down. The skin loses elasticity, thins and wrinkles. The hands and feet become cold as the remaining fluids in the circulatory system are shunted to the vital organs in an attempt to stay alive. The person stops urinating and has severe headaches as their brain shrinks from lack of fluids. The patient becomes anxious but then gets progressively more lethargic.

Some patients have hallucinations and seizures as their body chemistry becomes even more imbalanced. This proceeds to coma before death occurs. The final event as the blood pressure becomes almost undetectable is a major heart arrhythmia that stops the heart from pumping.

But Stevens' statement is contradicted by other doctors.

"The cessation of eating and drinking is the dominant way that mammals die," Dr. Ira Byock, director of palliative medicine at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in New Hampshire told the Los Angeles Times. "It is a very gentle way that nature has provided for animals to leave this life."

Dr. Robert Sullivan at Duke University Medical Center told the Times that after 24 hours without any food, "the body goes into a different mode and you're not hungry anymore," he said. "Total starvation is not painful or uncomfortable at all. When we were hunting rabbits millions of years ago, we had to have a back-up mode because we didn't always get a rabbit. You can't go hunting if you're hungry."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; dehydration; schiavo; schiavos; schindler; schlinder; starvation; terri; terris; terrischiavo
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To: Trust but Verify
And just today I read an article that said the opposite. So who is correct?

Stop eating and drinking for a few days and you'll have your answer.

21 posted on 03/24/2005 7:17:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
It might be a little different for me than it would be for someone whose brain is mostly gone, you know?
22 posted on 03/24/2005 7:19:08 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: DuncanWaring

"You can't go hunting if you're hungry."
One can't go hunting if you are dehydrated either and suffering from heat stroke. What a maroon.


23 posted on 03/24/2005 7:28:25 PM PST by takbodan (AP Help)
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To: wagglebee

Terri will pass, no way to stop it. But then Congress of the US should start an investigation to determine if the justice was administrated properly. All parties including the judge should be required to testify. Once Terri passes all records, including medical, can be subpoena by the Chairman of the investigation. Come on, Republicans, get some ba@@s. It would drive the court system to panic and the Democrats would go ballistic.


24 posted on 03/24/2005 7:29:43 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: wagglebee

Having been in just a training situation where water was rationed to less than a half pint a day for a week..... all I can say is it is not something anyone wants to go through.....ever. It hurts. It makes ya really sick. A sick feeling that you'll never forget.

Prayers for this lady, her family and friends......


25 posted on 03/24/2005 7:33:20 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: wagglebee

Whoever is in with Terri, (hospice staff, I presume?) have they made a statement yet as to whether she looks peaceful or not? (Just askin' because I would like to know)

Bones


26 posted on 03/24/2005 7:33:40 PM PST by Bones75
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To: Bones75

All those who died in Nazi death camps were really happy after all according to these experts.


27 posted on 03/24/2005 8:21:41 PM PST by Duke Wayne
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To: Duke Wayne

Liberals should all accept the new protocol for legally enforced death sentences, no more painless lethal injections, two weeks of no food and water for those on death row. At least they committed some overt act to bring on their fate.

Perhaps we can no longer EXECUTE Lee Boyd Malvo because he was 17, but we can confine him to a windowless room with no food or water until he expires.

Reagan80


28 posted on 03/24/2005 8:28:42 PM PST by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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To: Reagan80

Perhaps Ward Churchill is right. America IS filled with 'little Eichmanns'; except he cited the wrong buildings. They're not in office buildings, they're in courthouses.

Reagan80


29 posted on 03/24/2005 8:31:31 PM PST by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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To: Bones75

Whoever is in with Terri, (hospice staff, I presume?) have they made a statement yet as to whether she looks peaceful or not? (Just askin' because I would like to know)

George Felos says she looks peaceful, Mikeys brother says she looks peaceful, but her dear sweet mother had to leave the room because Terri wanted water. Theres nothing peaceful about it. She's been drugged up to where she can't fight anything. It makes me sick.


30 posted on 03/24/2005 8:42:24 PM PST by Lovergirl (Terri..I don't personally know you but I love you. God please save Terri. ..TERRI IS THIRSTY.)
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To: Lovergirl

Bones75

I wasn't being sarcastic to you at all. Hope I didn't come off to you that way. If i did I apologize.


31 posted on 03/24/2005 8:44:39 PM PST by Lovergirl (Terri..I don't personally know you but I love you. God please save Terri. ..TERRI IS THIRSTY.)
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To: billorites

Yeah, that's real tasteful..


32 posted on 03/24/2005 9:06:57 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Trust but Verify

If someone's brain is too far gone to experience hunger and thirst, it's too far gone to experience euphoria, too.


33 posted on 03/25/2005 4:05:36 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wagglebee
March 24 - Why Terri Schiavo will die tomorrow, the day Jesus Christ died (stop the satanic ritual murder!!!)
34 posted on 03/25/2005 4:32:26 AM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Truth666

Im sick of hearing starvation is painless, I have never experienced what Poor Terri is going thru But: I did a 3 day fast with my church one time many years ago in my younger days, I was a young healthy 21 yr old. It was actually a 21 day fast but i could not make it past 3 days.. I was miserable, sick nausoues weak dizzy etc.. So to say starvation is painless I DISAGREE !!!!!!!


35 posted on 03/25/2005 4:48:14 AM PST by SavedAndForgiven
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To: Darkwolf377
The next time we hear about the starving in some part of the world I guess we can all say "But it's a beautiful, peaceful way to die, and don't we all, really, want that?"


36 posted on 03/25/2005 4:52:50 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: msf92497

Haha! We'd also save on electricity.

I always thought, now if the army had only starved the Abu Grahib prisioners there would have been no scandal!

I didn't know that putting a barking dog in front of them was much more evil than starving them to death!


37 posted on 03/25/2005 6:06:54 AM PST by Barney Gumble (http://purveyors-of-truth.blogspot.com/)
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To: wagglebee
Dr. Robert Sullivan at Duke University Medical Center told the Times that after 24 hours without any food, "the body goes into a different mode and you're not hungry anymore," he said. "Total starvation is not painful or uncomfortable at all.

Well then Dr. Sullivan, perhaps you would be so kind to explain why we have so many instances of isolated survivors of a calamity turning to cannibalism instead of just lounging around, enjoying euphoria? If the pain of hunger and thirst didn't drive them, then what did?

39 posted on 03/25/2005 7:04:12 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Sho Nuff; All

If Terri is a "vegetable", then by definition she can experience neither pain nor pleasure and she is incapable of knowing peace or fear. However, the left is putting an unending stream of "experts" on TV to tell us that this death will actually be "euphoric." The fact that the pro-death crowd is even discussing how she will feel as she dies is indicative that they know SHE IS NOT IN A VEGETATIVE STATE! If she were in a vegetative state, then these "experts" would say that she is incapable of feeling pain, fear, peace or joy, and it really doesn't matter -- but they're not saying that because they are lying.


40 posted on 03/25/2005 7:04:59 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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