Posted on 03/24/2005 7:22:09 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
Edited on 03/24/2005 7:43:21 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
The tube was inserted at M. Schiavo's insistence, and later Felos lobbied to have tube feeding classified as medical treatment that can be discontinued as "extraordinary means." Terri may very well be able to swallow liquids but she is prevented from having any swallowing tests. Why?
I'm afraid you are correct.
The only thing I would add would be that from now on some of them will be "forced euthanasia" brought about the next- of- kin whoever that may be, and/or by a court appointed guardian.
This will be done without any input from the patient regardless of their ability to do so.
When these nursing homes exhaust these people's bank accounts ,savings and personal property,then they will done away with.
Thanks. This is so frustrating!!
Then you could kindly point me to the citation that somebody's wishes, other than the PATIENT's, may be asserted over a PVS individual. I frankly don't believe there is one, hence the need for advance directives from the patient, or other evidence as reviewd by a court of competent jurisdiction.
I have Rush on now, yup, he's on fire about this issue. Good for him.
regards
You know what, not everybody believes the same things that you do. That's the beauty of this country, there is no mandate that states everyone has to live their lives by the words in the bible.
If you choose to follow the bible when it doesn't conflict with the rules of our nation, that is up to you.
What's the deal with the Malpractice Award?
February 25, 1990: Terri Schiavo suffers cardiac arrest, apparently caused by a potassium imbalance and leading to brain damage due to lack of oxygen.
June 18, 1990: Court appoints Michael Schiavo as guardian; Terri Schiavo's parents do not object.
June 30, 1990: Terri Schiavo is transferred to Bayfront Hospital for further rehabilitation efforts.
September 1990: Terri Schiavo's family brings her home, but three weeks later they return her to the College Park facility because the family is "overwhelmed by Terri's care needs."
November 1990: Michael Schiavo takes Terri Schiavo to California for experimental "brain stimulator" treatment, an experimental "thalamic stimulator implant" in her brain.
May 1992: Terri Schiavo's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, and Michael Schiavo stop living together.
August 1992: Terri Schiavo is awarded $250,000 in an out-of-court medical malpractice settlement with one of her physicians.
November 1992: The jury in the medical malpractice trial against another of Terri's physicians awards more than one million dollars. In the end, after attorneys’ fees and other expenses, Michael Schiavo received about $300,000 and about $750,000 was put in a trust fund specifically for Terri Schiavo's medical care.
February 14, 1993: Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers have a falling-out over the course of therapy for Terri Schiavo; Michael Schiavo claims that the Schindlers demand that he share the malpractice money with them.
July 29, 1993: Schindlers attempt to remove Michael Schiavo as Terri Schiavo's guardian; the court later dismisses the suit.
There's much more, but you can see the pattern: The husband seeks aggressive therapy for his wife. He seems in no rush to "move in." A 2003 interview with Larry King might suggest Michael's commitment to Terri. Let's start with Michael's 1993 break with the family:
SCHIAVO: Her father and mother came into the room. And they closed the door. And they asked the big question, How much money am I going to get? And I told them I wasn't going to get any money.
KING: Out of the malpractice?
SCHIAVO: Out of the malpractice suit. Then he argued with me for a little while. And then he pointed at Terri in the wheelchair and says, How much am I going to get from her money? And I said, you have to go talk to the courts about that...From there, it blew up. He wanted to go out in the hall and have a fist fight. It was crazy. It was ludicrous.
KING: Did this shock you?
SCHIAVO: No, because he's always wanted the money. He always wanted money out of this. He even testified in the first trial that he was angry that he didn't get any money.
Here's Michael talking about his beyond-the-limit effort to find a fruitful treatment for Terri:
SCHIAVO: We heard of this doctor in California here that was doing experimental surgery, implanting stimulators in people's brains in hopes to stimulate any activity...Now, we were told with this, too, when this doctor looked at the CAT scans, that it was probably not going to work because there's just no brain left. But I did it anyway, because I loved Terri. And I wanted to bring my wife back. I wanted to have my wife back....So I flew her out to California by myself, with a nurse. And I spent a month there. They inserted the stimulator.
KING: Didn't work?
SCHIAVO: No, it eventually didn't work, no. The protocol for the stimulator was three months. I kept it on her for a year.
KING: A year. Not, as suggested, three months. Now we turn to the now-famous videotape that alledgedly shows Terri far from brain-dead:
SCHIAVO: Now, you've got to remember here, too, when the Schindlers show their little snippets of Terri, there's four and a half hours of tape. OK?
KING: This is edited?
SCHIAVO: This is edited. This is a tape where they snuck in against a court order after the judge said, do not photograph her.
KING: But she looks like--right, she's not in a coma.
SCHIAVO: Right. But you're missing half--you're missing three-quarters of the other tape where her mother does the same thing, and she does nothing. Now, Terri makes the same noises for the last 14 years. She's made the same facial expressions. She blinks her eyes. She has normal sleep/wake cycles. Now, the nurses have even testified in the trial that Terri makes those noises when nobody's in the room.
And, finally, the idea that Michael wants to collect the insurance money and move on to his replacement for Terri:
SCHIAVO: There's no money. There's no insurance. There's probably about $50,000 left in her estate. I will not receive a penny from this. Now, it's funny about that, because you know, back about two years, the Schindlers offered me $700,000 to walk away.
KING: They have that kind of money?
SCHIAVO: They get money from the right-wing activists. The right wing--the right-to-life groups.
KING: The right-to-life group was willing to pay you $700,000 to walk away?
SCHIAVO: Right. And two years ago, I offered what was left of Terri's money to charity three times, and the Schindlers refused to do that.
Caiaphas didn't know who Jesus was either He was just another Jew. However, you use the same reasoning that Caiaphas used to lower Terri to just another vegetable. It is wrong reasoning then, it is wrong reasoning now.
Thanks! Feel better!
Florida State Statutes Title XLIV 765.305
I don't think it ought to be legal to take someone's life based on someone's word. We don't even do business like that. Could you imagine my mortgage company going by my word rather than looking into my credit and putting it all in writing. This is a life and death situation. If the case was based on her wishes in writing, this wouldn't have happened. But it isn't.
“Life is a miracle and should be regarded as such.” -Anonymous
I'm just going by what God says. His law is higher, and more permanent, than Greer's. My life is not my own; it belongs to God. But we must fight for justice here on earth as much as we're able. It's monstrous that Terri is being forced to die of thirst on the whim of her husband. Why anyone would believe his word is beyond me.
Would it change your mind if M. Schiavo put Terri in this condition in the first place?
Perhaps that episode was NOT the result of a natural cause?
In any case, I don't think that all of the live-saving/extending medical advances that have been developed should be shunned because they were developed by the brains that God created in mankind. I have never refused an antibiotic to treat my pneumonia.
Because the power to stay a prisoner's execution is enumerated in law written by the Florida legislature.
How can a judge trump the Governor? Have our laws gone nuts or what?
From Social Studies 101, there are three branches of government. Legislative writes the laws, the Judicial branch interprets the law, and the Executive branch (led by the Governor) executes the laws. He cant do whatever he wants. Then he would be a dictator, not a governor.
We know God's will by studying scripture. Its clear that God commands us to feed and provide drink to the hungry and the thirsty.
"Terri Schiavo is not Jesus
That may be so, but you're hardly the man to ask."
How so? Does anyone claim that Terri is Jesus? No? Then why wouldn't I be able to answer that question. BTW, I don't claim that there was not a historical Jesus. I'm sure there was. I just don't accept any claims of divinity for him, since I don't believe that any deities or other such supernatural entities exist.
Terri still isn't Jesus, nor is this the Israel of 2000 years ago. What applied then, legally, does not apply today.
I am a Roman Catholic, which some would not consider Christian. Hence, my view is that if G_d wanted her home that night, she would not have survuived. Since she beat the odds, G_d wanted her to live. He may have planned this event now to prompt us to remember that life is indeed precious, and must be guarded zealously, or all will be lost. He may call her home now that that point has been made, and the ire of the people stirred. Only He knows that, however.
No doubt about it...Felos is "pulling the strings" - and the financing of this whole operation is beyond belief. Lots of money involved here: Insurance companies, Hospice, Soros, foundations, etc.
Be careful what and how you file with county/parish. I believe it then becomes considered public record in many places, and is ripe for picking for identity theft or privacy intrusion. Create a living will, but just be cautious.
Also, be sure your document is valid for wherever you might need it.
I want to see if "what goes around, comes around". I want to know if he has a happy or an unhappy life, if he's successful or unsuccessful, if the girlfriend turned new wife ever leaves him, if he ever goes bankrupt, whatever. I want to know.
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