Michael Schiavo Files Request With the SCOTUS, USSC Refuses to Take Schiavo Case

[ConservativeMan55]

Mod note: Calls for violence will result in suspensions

Michael Schiavo has filed a petition with the Supreme Court asking them to stay out of the case.

[jwalsh07]

Very funny deadhead.

Jerry says HIGH.

[KDD]

First and foremost - Terri is not living on life support. She is merely being fed and given water.

Terri is given food and water through tubes. Is disconnecting a feeding tube the same as ending life support? Yes it is, under Florida law, which governs the ability of each person to determine, or to appoint someone to determine, whether each of us should receive what the Legislature terms "life-prolonging medical procedures." The Legislature has explained:

The Legislature recognizes that for some the administration of life-prolonging medical procedures may result in only a precarious and burdensome existence. In order to ensure that the rights and intentions of a person may be respected even after he or she is no longer able to participate actively in decisions concerning himself or herself, and to encourage communication among such patient, his or her family, and his or her physician, the Legislature declares that the laws of this state recognize the right of a competent adult to make an advance directive instructing his or her physician to provide, withhold, or withdraw life-prolonging procedures, or to designate another to make the treatment decision for him or her in the event that such person should become incapacitated and unable to personally direct his or her medical care.
§ 765.102(3), Florida Statutes.

The Legislature has also defined what is a "life-prolonging procedure":

"Life-prolonging procedure" means any medical procedure, treatment, or intervention, including artificially provided sustenance and hydration, which sustains, restores, or supplants a spontaneous vital function. The term does not include the administration of medication or performance of medical procedure, when such medication or procedure is deemed necessary to provide comfort care or to alleviate pain.
§ 765.101(10), Florida Statutes (italics added by me).

And you seem to have forgotten...this is not about what the Schindlers or Michael wanted...it is about what Terri would want. 15 years in a vegatative state being force fed by the state would be purgatory to me. I have no problem believing the husband over the selfishness of the statements that her parents have made.

[middie]

They won't touch it because there is no constitutional issue for them to consider. The paradox is to complain about judicial tyranny while, at the same time, scream because the courts refuse to intercede where there is no basis to do so.

[MadIvan]

And you seem to have forgotten...this is not about what the Schindlers or Michael wanted...it is about what Terri would want. 15 years in a vegatative state being force fed by the state would be purgatory to me. I have no problem believing the husband over the selfishness of the statements that her parents have made.

Here is the point you are so strenously avoiding - YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SHE WANTS. And neither do I. And neither does Michael. Nor do her parents. At best, the understanding of that is fuzzy. The bias in this case is being turned towards death - and excruciating, prolonged death at that - without any definitive knowledge of what she wants. The statute is sensible in that it calls for judging the wishes of the individual in this decision - however, she left no written instructions. Michael has been given the role of "guardian", but his claim to the role given his obvious ulterior motives, is questionable at best. In the case of such fuzziness, as President Bush stated, the bias should be towards life.

But do you consider this? Do you think about this? No, it's just "kill the bitch" day over on your end of the 'Net. You got your pound of flesh, as I said. Savour it. It's evil, immoral and just utterly wrong - and the bulk fibre of verbiage you're dumping doesn't change this one iota.

Ivan

[texasbluebell]

"And you seem to have forgotten...this is not about what the Schindlers or Michael wanted...it is about what Terri would want."

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See the following, a sworn statement from a girlfriend of the estranged husband:

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Regarding that alleged conversation [when Terri supposedly said she would want to die in such a situation] -- Cindy Shook said that Michael Schiavo said:

"How the hell should I know, we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."


http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:yzE5tNjKsYMJ:ottawa.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/628.shtml+schiavo+how+the+hell+should+i+know&hl=en

[matymac]

Charlie Daniels..."A Few More Rednecks" it actually makes a lot of sense.

[general_re]

Well, at least I'm getting some support ;)

[mississippi red-neck]

Should have heard it I like Charlie Daniels.

[KDD]

Can you give me a link to her court testimony ?

I can't seem to find it anywhere in any of the trial court documents. In either trial.

[Ann Archy]

Did Scalia count on a KING GREER?? And STARVING a HANDICAPPED person to death??? Yikes.....We need help with a tyrannical judge,and no one is helping...he is nw truly the KING OF AMERICA.

[KDD]

It was unseemly for critics to compare her end with that of victims of the Nazi regime. There was never a more industrious inquiry, than in the Schiavo case, into the matter of rights formal and inchoate. It is simply wrong, whatever is felt about the eventual abandonment of her by her husband, to use the killing language. She was kept alive for fifteen years, underwent a hundred medical ministrations, all of them in service of an abstraction, which was that she wanted to stay alive. There are laws against force-feeding, and no one will know whether, if she had had the means to convey her will in the matter, she too would have said, Enough.

William F. Buckley Jr

The Great Quandary
Enough.

[TigersEye]

Shame on you for trivializing the American Revolution! What was all that about "life, liberty...inalienable rights" in the DoI? Just so much demagoguing to stall the British? You wipe your a$$ on that with your attitude.

[DustyMoment]

And you seem to have forgotten...this is not about what the Schindlers or Michael wanted...it is about what Terri would want.

You seem to know a fair amount about FL law . . . . . . but not much about this case. Shortly after Terri had her stroke, Michael told hospital officials that he didn't know what Terri would want. It wasn't until 7 years after the event and the award of $1M that Michael suddenly remembered that Terri "wouldn't want to live like this . . . . . . " yeah, that's what she told him, huh-huh.

You also seem to have selectively ignored a growing body of emerging testimony from caregivers who state unequivocally that Terri is not PVS, Michael has consistently refused to give her ANY rehabilitation (even though several prominent neurologists believe that she is not only NOT PVS, but she is rehabilitatable) and has routinely screamed about whether she is dead. In addition, he is suspected of abusing Terri and, POSSIBLY, trying to murder her by inducing a diabetic coma after injecting her with insulin.

The situation is further aggravated by Judge Greer who has suppressed and sealed Terri's file, routinely REFUSED to consider ANY evidence that contradicts anything Michael says and is as committd to her murder as Michael is.

Finally, those who knew Terri before the stroke have testified that she would not want to die. Terri, herself, has indicated that she wants to live and she wants help, according to different caregivers she has had.

According to any number of medical authorities, an accurate diagnosis of CVS requires an MRI and/or a PET scan - Terri has had neither in accordance with Michael's wishes. If you choose to believe that this is Terri's choice, that's your right, but the facts of this case seem to suggest otherwise.

[MadIvan]

Having no intelligent opinion of your own, you blandly quote others. All to justify, among other things, the following happening to Terri as she dies:

The first thing is that after 2-3 days you get extremely dehydrated. That results in a lot of changes in the body. Your mucous membranes and your skin get very dry. Your mouth cracks. It's very uncomfortable. Your urine becomes very concentrated and acidic, making it uncomfortable to urinate. Then your heart rate increases, your blood pressure decreases, and after about the third day, your kidneys start to develop problems. When the kidneys are damaged enough, they cannot get rid of the poison in the body. Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) builds up. The effect that this has on the body is to give you a type of lethargy, and has an almost anesthetic effect. It can also result in seizures. The poison builds up and drives the person towards unconsciousness after a period of days. The cause of death is usually seizures or cardiac arrhythmia because of an electrolyte imbalance.

I don't know, are you a human being? I find your claim to that title to be quesitonable.

Ivan

[TigersEye]

15 years in a vegatative state ...

You just won't quit with that lie even though it has been disproved by both legal and medical definitions.

[MadIvan]

By the way, I'll bloody call you whatever the bloody hell I see fit. You're supporting murdering a poor woman in an extremely painful way. People like you are monsters - William F. Buckley be damned.

Ivan

[TigersEye]

15 years in a vegatative state being force fed by the state would be purgatory to me.

Having thoughts like yours in my head would be a living hell to me. I still wouldn't want to be starved and dehydrated to death.

[Dane]

I have no problem believing the husband over the selfishness of the statements that her parents have made.

I have a bridge for sale that goes to Brooklyn.

[msuMD]

You aren't going to find any support in here for what is right. 67% of americans agree with you and me.

[KDD]

Such emotive thought processes I usually only find expressed by leftist homosexual protesters and social liberal feel good socialists. My estimation of your intellect has taken a nose dive and that is a shame because until now I have always had a great deal of respect for you.