Posted on 03/24/2005 7:09:06 AM PST by Nov3
Report: Accused School Shooter Was On Prozac
WEB EXTRA: Red Lake Coverage.
Mar 24, 2005 6:47 am US/Central Red Lake, Minn. (AP) The teenager accused of killing nine people and then himself on the Red Lake Indian Reservation was apparently struggling with depression.
A cultural coordinator at Red Lake Middle School told the Washington Post that Jeffrey Weise was taking the anti-depressant Prozac and was hospitalized for suicidal tendencies at least once.
A bus driver for a local health center told the paper he once drove Weise 60 miles to a psychiatric ward in Thief River Falls. The boy's grandmother also said he suffered from depression.
Students described Weise as a loner. He apparently posted messages on a neo-Nazi Web site, and a computer animation attributed to him shows a person shooting four people, blowing up a police car and committing suicide.
That would be necessarily true for the the people susceptible to this side effect to be exposed to the drug. The fact is mass killings are just one of the obsessive behaviors this drug causes. Now unfortunately I must obsess on work.
I think it is OK for some people, but anti-depressants shouldn't be given to anyone under 21 in my opinion. If the drug isn't working for you and starts to make things worse (agitated and restless in addition to depression) I don't think a younger person has the frame of reference to realize things aren't right and they should stop taking it. Doctors really need to stress that not all medicines work for everybody and there are alternatives. Also, I think lower doses are better.
There was an article in the WSJ, a month or so ago, that said that ritalin and aderal interfered with endorphin production and led to high anxiety and depression which in turn led to the need for other drugs. I think that you will find that many of the kids who have been taking the antidepressants, also took ritalin or aderal at some time.
Are you looking forward to the drug industry being sued into oblivion.
Before Prozac these kids were found hanging in their closets or with their brains blown out in their bedroom. Now they are found surrounded by the people they perceive as causing their pain.
A pill for every problem.
Step right up and get yer magic pills while they last.
No one should ever be the slightest bit unhappy for any reason.
The minute you feel unhappy, pop one of our magic pills.
These SSRI drugs are all huge problems. I have seen first hand with people close to me taking these drugs long term that they are dangerous. They do work however and here is what i have observed first hand: These drugs eliminate inhibitions and feeling of guilt. What prevents us from doing things we know are wrong. For most of us, when we feel guilt when considering an act , those feeling prevent us from acting on those acts. The SSRI (prozac zoloft, paxil, etc) remove inhibitions. This explains why kids placed on prozac kill themselves. Its not because the drugs aren't removing bad feelings, its because they are. These children who have had patterns of considering taking thier own life, have a natural inhibition which is removed by these drugs. These kids kill themselves and feel great doing it. These drugs are overused and are huge problems. I have observed first hand people who get on these drugs and begin doing things they never would have done off the drugs. These peole exhibit what I would describe as Sociopathic behavior. I believe strongly that Sociopathic behavior can be induced and is tied to SSRI inhibitors In fact some drugs reccommended for sociopaths involve inhibiting seretonin receptors (opprosite of prozac). These DRUGS are dangerous !!!!!
Just because alot of people are on anti-depressants, that doesn't make a correlation between school shootings and anti-depressants uninteresting.
If (made up numbers to follow) 18% of the population is on anti-depressants, and 81% of school shooters are on anti-depressants, the possibility of some correlation between the two would indeed be interesting.
That's just like the Atlanta courtroom killer, Brian Nichols being labeled as the "alleged" shooter. DUH!! He was in a courtroom full of people and his family was there as well when he pulled the trigger.
To call him "alleged" or this one "accused" is just an example of the way the media twists the truth.
Same thing calling Terri Schiavo as being "braindead" instead of brain damaged.
NO NO NO!!!!!! If you have a bad reaction to prozac you are bipolar!!!! You need MORE prozac (or whatever SSRI) stacked with mood stabilizers and lithium. I have listened to a "doctor" in the process of trying to destroy someone close to me tell me that prozac was a very important "tool" for diagnosis of bipolar. Thank GOD the person didn't listen and is now living a normal life instead of an eternal act of balancing drugs to therapeutic levels.
Ban all guns! ban all Prozak! He was probably playing violent video games, while on prozac, holding a gun, listening to heavy metal music, watching MTV.
Or maybe there are underlying emotional issues that went undiagnosed. I propose years of evaluation and therapy.
ummm, or maybe not.
Is Congress busy? maybe they can get to the bottom of it.
There is no way in hell our child will ever be on this crap. Prozac is a danger to society.
Mike
The New York Times has a detailed article about this kid's circumstances (I think it was posted here on FR today, but I don't have the reference). There was good reason for this kid to be situationally depressed. His father committed suicide and his mother was permanently disabled from a car accident caused by his drunk cousin who was killed. His mother couldn't care for him, so he had to leave the city to live with grandparents in the far country -- which could have by itself been traumatic.
That being said, it is not the school's business to get into psychiatry. Articles I've seen that blame the school for not "catching on" to the possibility of his actions are ridiculous. If schools could teach kids how to read & write & do math first then I might be open to the idea of school-provided health screening, but it's a very very long shot.
Actually in defense of the idiots at the MSM, this is how they prevent jury pools from being tainted and having killers go free when the attorney goes for a mistrial. It's actually a liability issue. Just pretend you don't see those words and you get the effect of the news.
It was as safe a bet that he was on prozac as it was that the MSM would take the opportunity to demonize guns and the right, while at the same time covering up his socialist, eco-terrorist, rascist leanings.
Already removed from the breaking news even though the story was released 2 hours ago. Fortunately the mods kept this thread in there
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1364924/posts
Why was this removed from breaking news? I just waant to know for future reference. Is it the prozac subject or what.
Have to make room for more Terri info, no doubt.
I took Lexapro (an SSRI) for a few weeks and it drove me up the wall. (Although I do know someone that it worked well for.) Wellbutrin is better in my opinion.
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