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"Talking Points" Story Imploding? (Repub "memo") WaPoGate!!!
Powerlineblog ^ | 3-23-05 | Hindrocket (powerline blog)

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:25:25 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite

ABC News, the original source of the story on the alleged "GOP talking points" memo now appears to be backing off the story. Blogger Josh Clayborn has been talking to ABC representatives, both on and off the record, and they are now telling him that they never meant to imply that the "talking points" memo originated with the Republicans--only that it was given to some Republican Senators. See his most recent posts at In the Agora.

ABC's current position, as reported by Josh, makes little sense, as their coverage certainly did say that this was a Republican memo. (ABC's website described the memo as containing "GOP talking points.") But the fact that they are now backing off suggests that in reality, they have no idea where the memo came from.

Doubts are starting to appear in other quarters, as well. Just a little while ago, the memo's authenticity was discussed on MSNBC; the fact that bloggers have questioned the memo's provenance was discussed, and at least one guest expressed the opinion that the memo is a Democratic dirty trick.

Finally, we got this email from a staffer for a conservative Republican Senator:

Regarding this phantom “strategy memo” about Terri Schiavo, I can say with almost complete certainty that this memo did not get passed out by Republicans. For starters, nobody up here who knows anything about the Senate refers to last week’s activities as “the Budget Act” (bullet point #2). We didn’t work on the Budget Act last week; we worked on the budget resolution. It may sound like a silly, semantic point to make, but that statement in particular jumped out at me.

Next, there was absolutely no need to take action “before the Budget Act” was pending business. Action could be taken at any time to vote on the Schiavo resolution. In fact, Senators Reid and Frist tried to do exactly that, but were blocked in their request for unanimous consent by Sen. Wyden. On this same note, the budget resolution was “pending business” all week! Debate and votes on the budget resolution began Monday, March 14. Why would we pass out a memo instructing Senators to do something BEFORE the budget resolution was being debated in the middle of debate over the budget resolution? That would be like passing out a memo during the 7th inning of a baseball game instructing us to take batting practice or stretch before the game started. It makes no sense.

I was on and off the Senate floor all throughout the week, including during the Thursday night vote-a-rama. The only piece of literature that I saw being distributed was a simple list of amendments that were being voted on, and it had the Majority Whip’s name on it. No talking points, no summaries – just a simple card with a list of stacked amendments. My boss never received this alleged Schiavo memo. And trust me, given the ideological leaning of my boss, if anybody were to see this memo, it would be him.

I have not talked to any GOP staffers up here who have seen this phantom memo. Nobody I know received any e-mails containing anything even remotely close to this memo. Granted, nothing I have offered is conclusive, but this whole issue really stinks of fraud.


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abcia; abcnews; cary; dirtytricks; gopmemo; memo; mikeallen; powerlineblog; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; wapogate; wp
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To: whereasandsoforth
Aside: They have a thread going on at DU about this thread. We're all suppose to be so "desperate" we don't know which end is up. It's really FUNNY! To call us desperate, we the majority and their intellectual superiors, is what's desperate.
61 posted on 03/23/2005 6:00:14 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: whereasandsoforth

LOL!!!


62 posted on 03/23/2005 6:02:19 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
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To: mewzilla

For some unknown computer reason, everything I copied and pasted didn't show up.


63 posted on 03/23/2005 6:02:24 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Never let your life be determined by the prejudice of a Physician.)
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To: whereasandsoforth

OH MY GOSH! They are up to six posts on that thread! That's a quarter of the way to "thread overload" on DU.


64 posted on 03/23/2005 6:03:08 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: spodefly
"There is no way that a major news organization would go public with a memo unless they were certain it was genuine and authentic."

I sure hope you forgot the sarcasm tag......

65 posted on 03/23/2005 6:04:50 PM PST by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Letting Rather off the hook gave the RATS free reign to do this all the time. Turn the other cheek is going to get someone thrown out of office sooner or later.


66 posted on 03/23/2005 6:08:11 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: whereasandsoforth

Link please.


67 posted on 03/23/2005 6:08:32 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: John Lenin

For a dead guy, you have remarkable insight.


68 posted on 03/23/2005 6:15:18 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: whereasandsoforth

I admit it. I'm the source. I did it.

HAPPY? ARE YOU SATISFIED?

Signed, Karl Rove


69 posted on 03/23/2005 6:15:37 PM PST by JusPasenThru (http://giinthesky.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyncooper

I can't find it now. ??? I'll try again.


70 posted on 03/23/2005 6:18:20 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: whereasandsoforth

Oh, if you run across it. No biggie.


71 posted on 03/23/2005 6:19:18 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Petronski
I AM BUCKHEAD!

No!

I am BUCKHEAD!

72 posted on 03/23/2005 6:20:25 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Michael Schiavo's favorite Shakespearean quote..."Put out the light....then put out the light.")
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To: spodefly

You're kidding right ?


73 posted on 03/23/2005 6:20:26 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Fair enough.



heh heh heh


74 posted on 03/23/2005 6:20:58 PM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Mr. Lucky

I'm on my third life already, it's a gift from God.


75 posted on 03/23/2005 6:22:11 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: JusPasenThru

Karl, your genius is unparalleled. Thanks for fabricating another memo ;)


76 posted on 03/23/2005 6:23:24 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (Not everyone here is your FRiend, watch out for the "opinion shapers" (aka troll with an agenda))
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I saw the original ABCIA report by Linda Douglass and Peter Jennings, and both of them were like grinning idiots in their glee over what they said was a "GOP talking points" memo. I said to myself at the time that there was no way this originated with the GOP. Great minds think alike.


77 posted on 03/23/2005 6:25:44 PM PST by Prince Charles
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To: Petronski
mebbe we could each be half a buck.

Reminds me of a joke which cannot be done on an open forum.

78 posted on 03/23/2005 6:25:50 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (Michael Schiavo's favorite Shakespearean quote..."Put out the light....then put out the light.")
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To: Old Sarge

LOL!

Another one bites the dust!


79 posted on 03/23/2005 6:29:15 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ConservativeMan55

80 posted on 03/23/2005 6:31:14 PM PST by John Lenin
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