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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Shethink13

Of course it is subject to review. Put down the Kool-aid and study the case. It has been reviewed over twenty times by many different judges, they have all reached the same conclusion. Terri Schiavo does not want to be kept alive. You and I may disagree with that decision but its none of our business. If you don't like the law change it, thats how our system works.


761 posted on 03/23/2005 8:13:30 PM PST by Logos124
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To: gopwinsin04

Yes, Please!!


762 posted on 03/23/2005 8:13:47 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA — all life is precious)
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To: Logos124

Where is the evidence for this? Here husband's testimony on this, seven years after the accident (if it was one), is nothing but hearsay.


763 posted on 03/23/2005 8:15:14 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA — all life is precious)
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To: Logos124
Terri Schiavo does not want to be kept alive.

This seems to be the crux of the problem. OK then, give her a lethal injection and let's be done with it.

Or, shall we do as you and the state and her 'guardian' propose, ie. starve her to death. 'Till then, we're not sharing a foxhole, peewee.

764 posted on 03/23/2005 8:20:57 PM PST by budwiesest (As California goes, so goes the whole enchilada.)
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To: Jimmyclyde

Do you understand "de novo"??????? A new court should have required a full review per Congress. That didn't happen. Tthe judiciary failed in this case...miserably.


765 posted on 03/23/2005 8:21:15 PM PST by Solson (The path of least resistance is the path of the loser. - Phil Weltman)
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To: JoeA

Hearsay is not admissable in a court of law. Every judge that has heard the case, over twenty of them, have all ruled that Terri Schiavo did not want to live in her current state. Neither you nor I know the exact testimony of the case so we must trust that if their was some evidence that this is not what Terri wanted then one of these judges would have found it. I don't want to see her die, I agree her "husband" is an adultering scumbag, but the law is the law.


766 posted on 03/23/2005 8:21:47 PM PST by Logos124
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To: budwiesest

If it is possible to ease Terri's passing in any way I believe it should immediately be done. The argument here is whether or not Terri wanted to live in a PVS.


767 posted on 03/23/2005 8:25:14 PM PST by Logos124
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To: Solson
It has been reviewed 20+ times!!

You sound like the Dems in 2000. Keep "counting" the votes till we get our guy in.

She is a vegetable.

Let her die in peace...

768 posted on 03/23/2005 8:26:41 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Miss Behave
MANY people do.

Yeah I'm mixing up some roast beef and mashed potateos in mine right now.

After I eat I'm going to stare at the ceiling for a few hours and then ease of to slept. Can't wait to wake up and do it all over again tomorrow.

769 posted on 03/23/2005 8:30:06 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde

You're clueless as well as immature. Take it elsewhere.


770 posted on 03/23/2005 8:34:22 PM PST by Miss Behave (Man who fart in church sit in own pew.)
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To: Walkin Man
I am happy you are pro-life.

If there has been any fanaticism in this matter, it comes from liberal and RINO legislators and judges who just can't wait until Terri Schiavo is dead, with her body cremated (so as to cover the evidence) and her ashes scattered in a field in Pennsylvania. You talk about acting un-Constitutionally. If anyone has acted in this manner, it is the judiciary that has, on both state and Federal levels, asserted its supremacy over the legislative and executive branches. Judge Greer, empowered by aggrandizing Supreme Courts dating back to John Marshall and in full steam since Earl Warren's court, has overruled both the legislature and the executive branch.

The fanaticism and un-Constitutional actions are on your side of this dispute.

771 posted on 03/23/2005 8:34:50 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Logos124
It has been reviewed over twenty times by many different judges, they have all reached the same conclusion.

It has not been reviewed by many different judges. One judge's decision has been rubber stamped by all subsequent judges without extensive review.

I ask you - if Terri does not want to be kept alive, why did she accept food and water when offered to her orally? Oh, that's right - you're another one who says everyone is a liar except Saint Michael of Schiavo - the guy who loves his wife so much he didn't even mention her as a survivor to his mother in her obituary. Oh, yeah - but Jodi was named as his fiance.

Who's the Kool-aid drinker here?

I'm frankly surprised at your sudden respect for the judiciary, given the quote by Jefferson you display. Unless you have another agenda more powerful than your disdain for judicial tyranny?

772 posted on 03/23/2005 8:37:09 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: Logos124
You're so...... humane.
If it is possible to ease Terri's passing in any way I believe it should immediately be done.
If it is possible to ease Terri's passing in any way I believe it should immediately be done.
If it is possible to ease Terri's passing in any way I believe it should immediately be done.

Ya see sometimes, you've got to repeat a line to see what it doesn't say. For instance: Why must she pass at this time? And who are we to be issueing tickets?

773 posted on 03/23/2005 8:38:53 PM PST by budwiesest (As California goes, so goes the whole enchilada.)
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To: Jimmyclyde
You eat food through a tube attached to stomach?

Would putting ice chips in her mouth be artificial?

774 posted on 03/23/2005 8:39:29 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Miss Behave

He'll just die a nice, peaceful death if you starve him. That's what they say, anyway. I know it's difficult but we must try not to feed the trolls.


775 posted on 03/23/2005 8:39:40 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: Jimmyclyde
It has been reviewed 20+ times.

It has been reviewed 20+ times by the famed Florida judicial system, which almost foisted Al Gore upon this nation, nine months before Muslim terrorists attacked the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Their review is about as impressive as one the Three Stooges would have conducted.

776 posted on 03/23/2005 8:39:52 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Miss Behave
You're clueless as well as immature. Take it elsewhere.

Hey come on!

Feeding tubes and vegetative states are all the rage now, everybody's doing it, it's cool and hip to be a vegetable!

I find the fact that you won't honor the wishes of this poor woman to die in peace be obnoxious,clueless and cruel.

777 posted on 03/23/2005 8:40:11 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Wallace T.

Tin foil Wallace, remember the tin foil.


778 posted on 03/23/2005 8:41:03 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde

I said take it elsewhere. NOW.


779 posted on 03/23/2005 8:41:54 PM PST by Miss Behave (Man who fart in church sit in own pew.)
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To: Logos124
If it is possible to ease Terri's passing in any way I believe it should immediately be done.

Ease Terri's passing? Why would a vegetable need to be put at ease?

780 posted on 03/23/2005 8:43:35 PM PST by Shethink13
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