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Man who admitted shining laser at aircraft indicted on Patriot Act charge
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Posted on 03/23/2005 2:12:47 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Man who admitted shining laser at aircraft indicted on Patriot Act charge

By JEFFREY GOLD Associated Press Writer

March 23, 2005, 4:51 PM EST

NEWARK, N.J. -- A man accused of pointing a laser at an airplane, temporarily blinding the pilot and co-pilot, was indicted Wednesday under an anti-terror law.

David W. Banach also was accused of lying to the FBI about the Dec. 29 incident, in which a small passenger jet's windshield and cabin were hit three times by a green laser as the plane readied to land at Teterboro Airport.

The charges in the three-count federal indictment were similar to those filed against Banach in a complaint by the FBI in January. The indictment, handed up by a grand jury in Newark, replaces the FBI complaint.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; davidbanach; fbi; laser; patriotact; teterboro
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good, lock him up.
1 posted on 03/23/2005 2:12:47 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Shine a laser into HIS eyes.


2 posted on 03/23/2005 2:13:42 PM PST by steenkeenbadges
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To: Sub-Driver

how do you use a green laser to look at stars? I just don't get it.


3 posted on 03/23/2005 2:15:25 PM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Sub-Driver
lock him up.

Probably, but I'm a bit troubled by the invocation of the Patriot Act. It appears to be much closer to reckless endangerment than terrorism.

4 posted on 03/23/2005 2:15:33 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds like it would be a cheap and easy way for a terrorist to bring down a plane. Wonder if anyone is working on ways to shield against this?


5 posted on 03/23/2005 2:15:47 PM PST by John Jorsett (email: mistersandiego yahoo.com (put the at sign in between those two))
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To: Sub-Driver
Banach's lawyer, Gina Mendola-Longarzo, said her client was using the laser to look at stars with his daughter when the plane was hit by the beam.

Amazing!

Personally, I prefer my telescope.

6 posted on 03/23/2005 2:17:06 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: ThinkDifferent
Probably, but I'm a bit troubled by the invocation of the Patriot Act. It appears to be much closer to reckless endangerment than terrorism

Well whatever it was "considered" it put the lives of everyone on board in jeopardy.

7 posted on 03/23/2005 2:18:06 PM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

I think this case is sad. I think this man was just playing around and wanted to see if he could see the laser hit the plane. Most people would probably not think it would cause any harm. He probably got scared and lied about it. It certainly doesn't warrant 20 years in prison or a huge fine. Maybe a small fine for lying.


8 posted on 03/23/2005 2:18:43 PM PST by 1Peter3v14
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To: tfecw
Consumer grade laser pointers red or green are typically under 5 milliwatts. The green ones are used in amateur astronomy to point out positions of stars. Green is used because it appears brighter to our eyes than red pointers.
9 posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:51 PM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: ThinkDifferent

On a grand enough scale, reckless endangerment IS terrorism. The population density of northern New Jersey is incredibly high, and this act put thousands of peoples' lives at risk. I drove by the area the other day, and was taken aback by how easy it would be to bring down a plane at that airport, there are so many places with cover that are close enough to the approaches. I've been by there many times before but for some reason it really struck home this last time I went by.


10 posted on 03/23/2005 2:21:11 PM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: John Jorsett

"Wonder if anyone is working on ways to shield against this?"


A pair of polarized sunglasses would do it.


11 posted on 03/23/2005 2:21:41 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: steveo

"The green ones are used in amateur astronomy to point out positions of stars. Green is used because it appears brighter to our eyes than red pointers."


And that laser for astronomy pointing is reflecting off of what, again? What's the need for a laser pointer for pointing into space?!


12 posted on 03/23/2005 2:23:01 PM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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hmm, didn't know that. How does it work? Doesn't it need to reflect off of something in order for you to see it? I've used the red ones and you had to point it at something to see the dot. I would think a star is a tad out of the range.

Do the green ones work like the bat signal? (sorry bad example but first that came to me) As in they illuminate the sky.
13 posted on 03/23/2005 2:23:24 PM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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how do you use a green laser to look at stars? I just don't get it.

Out here in the high desert, it would be useless because of the clear air. However, where there's any haze, dust, smog, etc., in the air, a laser beam will partially reflect off the atmospheric contaminants. So, weilding one of these puppies, one can literally cast a green line into the night sky and use it to point out stars, constellations, and so forth.

"Whoops! Sorry honey! That's an airplane, not a meteor!"

14 posted on 03/23/2005 2:27:13 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: Aeronaut

for aviation ping


15 posted on 03/23/2005 2:28:01 PM PST by IonImplantGuru (Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt. (May they perish who have expressed our bright ideas before us)
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To: IonImplantGuru

ahhh it's all clicking now :) Thank you


16 posted on 03/23/2005 2:28:17 PM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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"how do you use a green laser to look at stars? I just don't get it."

Amateur astronomers have used lasers as pointers to line up their telescope with the star they want to view. It takes the place of the small guide scope usually found on the side of most telescopes.

There is just enough particulates and aerosols in the atmosphere that on a dark night you can see the beam for quite some distance along its path. It is this long beam that allows for the accurate pointing of the telescope. The same logic applies when no telescope is involved, but just two naked-eye viewers trying to point out particular stars to one another.

Just so we're clear, I think that the defendant's claim in this case, of unintentional illumination of the jet while star gazing, is bogus.

--Boot Hill

17 posted on 03/23/2005 2:29:43 PM PST by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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Trying to bring down the plane is terrorism, being stupid is well being stupid... I do not believe he meant any harm.


18 posted on 03/23/2005 2:32:33 PM PST by just me
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What those guys said...

19 posted on 03/23/2005 2:33:59 PM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: Blzbba
Wonder if anyone is working on ways to shield against this?"
A pair of polarized sunglasses would do it.


One would think it wouldn't be that difficult or expensive to apply some sort of coating on the windshield of the aircraft to diffuse or deflect a laser beam of this type.
20 posted on 03/23/2005 2:37:15 PM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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