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1 posted on 03/23/2005 10:31:53 AM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

They should get the husband to starve him to death.


2 posted on 03/23/2005 10:34:10 AM PST by Calusa ( ... Oh, sweet Gaia, I'm gonna heave!")
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To: ambrose
Means was acting on an appeal from Staley's lawyer who argued the convicted killer is mentally incompetent and should not be put to death.

Of course, now if this guy had not committed a crime and murdered someone, then he could be put to death.

3 posted on 03/23/2005 10:34:11 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: ambrose
Of course Terri Schiavo gets no such intricate last minute second-guessing from our federal courts like condemned murderers do. What's wrong with this picture?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
4 posted on 03/23/2005 10:34:56 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ambrose
the convicted killer is mentally incompetent and should not be put to death...

Ironic, isn't it!
5 posted on 03/23/2005 10:35:07 AM PST by The Great Yazoo ("Happy is the boy who discovers the bent of his life-work during childhood." Sven Hedin)
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To: ambrose

Can't kill the mentally incompetent you say?


6 posted on 03/23/2005 10:35:11 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: ambrose

These issues should be left to the state. The Fed. Gov. has no business in these matters.


7 posted on 03/23/2005 10:37:01 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (Children need two-parent homes, hopefully the ones who actually made them.)
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To: ambrose

Hipocrisy? Can't kill a criminal because he's mentally incompetent, but it's ok to starve and dehydrate to death a woman who has done nothing wrong?

WTF is wrong with this world? </rehtorical - not really looking for an answer>


8 posted on 03/23/2005 10:37:42 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (In memory of FReeper Henry Lee II.)
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To: ambrose

Ok, this guy CAN'T be put to death because he is mentally incompetant and he murdered someone but Teri gets put to death because she is mentally incompetant and HASN'T murdered someone.

I think the hand of God has been removed from this country. I say that will all honesty, this week has taken my faith of this being a protected nation.


9 posted on 03/23/2005 10:39:11 AM PST by sandbar
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To: ambrose

Thomas Sowell wrote a column in the mid nineteen eighties that the definition of "competency" was "competence, as described by the incompetent."


12 posted on 03/23/2005 10:42:03 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: ambrose

"Means was acting on an appeal from Staley's lawyer who argued the convicted killer is mentally incompetent and should not be put to death."


Is that a reason not to be executed?

Can Terri be considered incompetent? Why not, they call her brain-dead, right? Then maybe she can LIVE!


13 posted on 03/23/2005 10:42:55 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: ambrose

Texas doesn't make judges like Roy Bean anymore.
(From http://home.hiwaay.net/~dbennett/justice.html)

A Compassionate Sentence
Following are the exact words of a sentence handed down by Texas Judge.
The fact is Jones, the court did not intend to order you to be executed before next spring, but being as the weather is cold and the jail in such miserable shape, with much of the glass broken, and owing to the great amount of prisoners already in the jail and considering the hardships it would impose on the sheriff to have to look after you until next spring and considering the fact that there are not enough blankets for all the prisoners I feel as if you would undoubtedly not be comfortable in such surroundings.

Therefore it is the order of the court, that in order to alleviate your sufferings and provide the compassionate care a man in your present situation requires, that you should be hung as soon as possible tomorrow morning when the sheriff has finished his breakfast or as soon as possible thereafter.

This is an actual sentence handed down by Judge Roy Bean
Jose Manuel Miguel Gonzales, in a few short weeks it will be spring.
The snows of winter will flow away, the ice will vanish, the air will become soft and balmy.
The annual miricle of the years will awaken and come to pass.
The rivulet will run its soaring course to the sea.
The timid desert flowers will put fourth their tender shoots.
The glorious valleys of this imperial domain will blossom as the rose.
From every tree top, some wild songster will carol his mating song.
Butterflies will sport in th sunshine.

But you will not be their to enjoy it. Because I command the sheriff of the county to lead you away to some remote spot, swing you by the neck from a knotting bough of some sturdy oak and let you hang until dead.

And then Jose Manuel Miguel Gonzales, I further command that such officers retire quickly from your dangling corpse, that vultures may descend from the heavens upon your filthy body until nothing is left but the bare, bleached bones of a cold-blooded, blood-thirsty, throat-cutting, mudering S.O.B

Quotes from Judge Parker the Hanging Judge:

"Sometimes you will find good men involved in things (mob violence) of that kind. It is because they have lost confidence in courts and juries."

"I never hanged a man, it was the law."

"Murders are on the increase... I attribute the increase to the Supreme Court... the murderer has a long breathing spell before his case comes before the Supreme Court, then the conviction may be quashed upon the flimsiest technicalities. The Supreme Court never touches on the merit of the case."

"Gentlemen, the very power and majesty of this Government and this Law are in your hands. While it is not there in burning letters over the door, see to it that the maxim that "no guilty man shall escape and no innocent man shall be punished", shall be verified in this case, as it should in every case. You will retire to make your verdict."

"Sympathy should not be reserved wholly for the criminal. I believe in standing on the right side of the innocent... quiet, peaceful, law-abiding citizen, is there no sympathy for him?"

"I do not desire to hang you men, it is the law."

"At the present there seems to be a criminal wave sweeping over the country, the like of which, I have not seen before. It is due to the laxiety of the courts."

"I have no objection to appeal. I even favor abolition of the death penalty provided there is a certainty of punishment, for in the uncertainty of punishment following crimes lies weakness of our halting justice."

"Liberty and Life are precarious unless those in authority have sense and spirit enough to defend them under the law"

"The sword of human justice trembles over you and is about to fall upon your guilty head."

"When you return to the solitude of your prison... bring to your recollection the mortal struggles and dying groans of your murdered victim."

"I have this much satisfaction after my twenty years of labor: the Court at Ft. Smith, Arkansas stands as a monument to the strong arm of the laws of the United States and has resulted in bringing to the Indian Territory, civilization and protection."



22 posted on 03/23/2005 10:58:01 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: ambrose

Mental competency is not the gold standard for execution.


23 posted on 03/23/2005 11:00:17 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: ambrose
Means was acting on an appeal from Staley's lawyer who argued the convicted killer is mentally incompetent and should not be put to death<<<

What about Terri? Is SHE mentally "incompetent"?

Hypocrites.
25 posted on 03/23/2005 11:17:02 AM PST by hushpad (The Slippery Slope? The Judiciary passed it a few miles back.)
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To: ambrose

So don't kill a man who committed armed robbery and murder, because he is mentally incompetent, but DO kill a woman who has done nothing wrong, because she is mentally incompetent...

Gotcha...


26 posted on 03/23/2005 11:51:17 AM PST by jcb8199
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