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School gunman stole police pistol, vest
cnn ^ | 3-23-05

Posted on 03/23/2005 9:40:47 AM PST by LouAvul

A student authorities say killed seven people at his Minnesota high school first shot his grandfather and the man's girlfriend before taking his police-issued weapon, bulletproof vest and squad car to Red Lake Senior High School.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Michael Tabman said Tuesday that 16-year-old Jeff Weise killed his grandfather, 58-year-old Daryl Lussier, and his grandfather's 32-year-old girlfriend, Michelle Sigana, with a .22-caliber gun before driving to the school Monday.

FBI agents would not confirm reports that Weise had posted comments on a neo-Nazi Web site.

But a person who posted on the site of the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party identified himself as "Jeff Weise, from the Red Lake 'Indian' Reservation." The writer said he disliked interracial mixing among the American Indians on the reservation where he lived.

Federal investigators, however, said that while the postings may provide clues to the rampage, it was premature Tuesday to speculate on a motive. The shootings at the school appeared to be random, Tabman said.

He said authorities believe Weise stole his grandfather's police-issued pistol and a shotgun, as well as a gunbelt and vest. Authorities said he had three guns in all.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: americanindians; banglist; donutwwatch; jeffweise; redlakereservation
Think with me here. He was already in violation of numerous laws, including stealing a firearm. How many of you think more repressive gun laws are the answer to these tragedies?
1 posted on 03/23/2005 9:40:48 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul
before taking his police-issued weapon

How many of you think more repressive gun laws are the answer to these tragedies?


Only cops should have guns.

Oh, wait...
2 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:41 AM PST by holymoly ("A lot" is TWO words.)
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To: LouAvul
The writer said he disliked interracial mixing among the American Indians on the reservation where he lived.

Which is why his name is Jeff Weise instead of Running Bear.

3 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:44 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: LouAvul
Simply by taking ALL GUNS, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM, away from us. That is their plan. Like Hitler, Stalin, Saddam and Mao. Take them all up, then you cannot fight back. Simple as that. Don't give out any more concealed permits. That certainly would have stopped this you know! /sarcasm not off, I stay sarcastic all day long.
4 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:49 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Ted Kennedy is a democrat. Democrats are the enemy. Destroy your enemies.)
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To: LouAvul

How many of those repressive laws that the grabbers want to pass will actually apply to LE officers? Every single gun control law in recent memory has exempted LE and military/govt.

Trying to argue with the grabbers with logic and facts is tiring and ultimately futile. Can we just round them up and shoot them for being enemies of the Constitution? Or set up a trade program where we send America-hating leftists to Cuba and we take some of their people that risk life and limb to get to US soil.


5 posted on 03/23/2005 9:44:17 AM PST by boofus
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To: LouAvul

Oh, but 100% effective gun control laws would protect us from all such evil weapons. All the time.

Didn't you know?

the problem is that there are not ENOUGH really tough gun control laws to prevent them from getting in the hands of ignorant (er, innocent) people. (Er, victims.)


6 posted on 03/23/2005 9:44:21 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: LouAvul

The first one will be titled: ".22 caliber assault weapons ban."


7 posted on 03/23/2005 9:44:23 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (For my next trick, I'll need a volunteer.)
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To: LouAvul

"first shot his grandfather and the man's girlfriend before taking his police-issued weapon, bulletproof vest and squad car to Red Lake Senior High School."

Notwithstanding, the Left continues to point to this tragedy as proving the need for more gun control laws.


8 posted on 03/23/2005 9:46:02 AM PST by Spok
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To: LouAvul
"How many of you think more repressive gun laws are the answer to these tragedies?"

Advocates of these laws will not expect to be called to task for the illogic of their argument. They will rely on the ignorance of the American public, including the ignorance of MSM reporters - who took English Lit and Sociology courses in college rather than courses in logic or any kind of rigorous scientific study. And so you will see little challenge to such absurdity.

9 posted on 03/23/2005 9:46:11 AM PST by Fido969
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To: LouAvul
How many of you think more repressive gun laws are the answer to these tragedies

I doubt that few if any here will think that. However there will be plenty of the usual suspects who will. With all the recent "gun violence" incidents, you can bet they'll all be bleating out their calls for more gun control, regardless of whether it would have made any difference in the recent incidents or not.

10 posted on 03/23/2005 9:49:02 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: boofus
Every single gun control law in recent memory has exempted LE and military/govt

Well, all but one anyway. The Lautenberg domestic violence gun ban applies to police and even military. They, especially the police, screamed long and loud about it, but AFAIK, it hasn't been changed.

11 posted on 03/23/2005 9:51:01 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: LouAvul
He said authorities believe Weise stole his grandfather's police-issued pistol and a shotgun, as well as a gunbelt and vest. Authorities said he had three guns in all.

So a federal cop (Indian Reservation) failed to secure his duty weapon..and it was used in a mass murder?

The kid telegraphed his moves at school and on the net and even his own police officer grandpa had NO idea what he was capable of?

And failed to secure his weapons...

A terrible tragedy...but has nothing at all to do with the second amendment

But has everything to do with what is not being taught to our nations kids

imo

12 posted on 03/23/2005 9:51:43 AM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Oh, but 100% effective gun control laws would protect us from all such evil weapons. All the time.

EXACTLY!! People keep forgetting that before guns were invented there was no violence and everybody just walked around in white robes handing flowers to passersby.

13 posted on 03/23/2005 9:52:36 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: LouAvul

Seems to me that all of the articles on this little micreant's murder spree ought to be: "Youth Kills Unwanted Classmates Only Hours After Fed Court Okays Murder of Helpless Invalid."


14 posted on 03/23/2005 10:27:51 AM PST by cgclews
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To: RetiredArmy

What we need to use is Rosie O'Donnell's GIANT MAGNET, that would go over the country and suck up all the guns...

Have you noticed that you don't hear much about Rosie anymore?


15 posted on 03/23/2005 10:34:13 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock

She is a Never-Was Nazzz Been.


16 posted on 03/23/2005 10:53:52 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Ted Kennedy is a democrat. Democrats are the enemy. Destroy your enemies.)
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To: LouAvul

al l we have to do is pass agun control law making it illegal for a 16 year old to possess a firearm and make it illegal to carry aloaded gun on school property then this thing wouild have never happened /sarcasm


17 posted on 03/23/2005 5:11:11 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: LouAvul
He killed his grandfather and his grandfather's partner first. Then he stole his grandfather's weapons then went to the school immediately in his grandfather's police vehicle. I don't see where gun laws come into it. He took a policeman's guns.
18 posted on 03/23/2005 5:11:26 PM PST by JLO (I always TRY to live up to be MN nice)
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