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Black-on-black discrimination?
JWR ^ | 3-23-05 | John Stossel

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:20:45 AM PST by FlyLow

"You can call me anything in the book when I was younger. Just don't call me African," Jason Reynolds told me. That, he said, was "the worst insult a dark-skinned boy, as a child, ever got."

"Africa," he explained, "is still equated to savage."

Reynolds, a student at the University of Maryland (UM), was not talking about racist remarks by white people. In fact, many white people don't have a clue that "colorism," the kind of prejudice Reynolds was talking about, even exists. Among black Americans, however, it's an open secret.

"I've benefited from the colorism, because I'm light-skinned, because I've always had the long, straight hair," said another black UM student, Marquita Briscoe. "I thought I was just pretty." In music videos, it often turns out, both light- and dark-skinned African-American women can be sexy — just not in the same way. "The darker the woman is," said Karen Morrison, also of UM, "she takes on what I refer to as . . . a 'ho' complex. She is the prostitute."

"The lighter a woman is, well, she's the goddess," said Morrison, who is dark. "She's the untouchable. She is the woman that all the men in the video aspire to have."

Apparently, a shade close to white is useful if you want to play a successful character in the movies. Mel Jackson, who played a business executive in "Soul Food," says light-skinned men like him tend to get those white-collar roles. "If the character's supposed to be more successful or more, more articulate or have a better background, they'll easily cast me in that character."

The Black Power movement was supposed to change colorist attitudes, and it did change some things in Hollywood. Dark-skinned male stars like Richard Roundtree began to get roles as action heroes.

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KEYWORDS: blacks; colorism; stossel
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To: cyborg

I still having trouble coping with not being 6'2" and having executive style hair.


21 posted on 03/23/2005 5:39:28 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Paloma_55

No I just mean that there is 'intraracial' issues with whites too. It's just not discussed as much, except for things like tans which I think is more of a hollyweird cultural thing.


22 posted on 03/23/2005 5:40:57 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL oh the burdens!


23 posted on 03/23/2005 5:41:42 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
OK....IF your statements are factual...Now I understand the poster's obscure point.

Although what I was questioning....was how would a life insurance company know who someone was dating. I didn't understand the point....thus my "What?"

FWIW-

24 posted on 03/23/2005 5:43:31 AM PST by Osage Orange (Democrats....appear as confused as goats on AstroTurf.)
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To: L98Fiero

Though I hate to get into this one... I know light-skinned black AND hispanic women who have told me that everynow and then when they are wearing shorts or a short skirt that someone of their race WILL come up to them and tell them that they need to tan because they're 'too white' for what they're wearing.

First I told them that those people were just jealous.

Then I tell them that as a VERY pale red-head I, too, am jealous of their lovely skin tone!!

(What can I say? Regular egg shells have a tan compared to me!)


25 posted on 03/23/2005 5:43:38 AM PST by freecopper01 (" The amount of people who are making fun of a blueprint for genocide is an alarming thing.")
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To: FlyLow
I have noticed in TV and movies that a dark-skinned male actor invariably has a lighter-toned wife or girlfriend.
26 posted on 03/23/2005 5:44:32 AM PST by Restorer
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27 posted on 03/23/2005 5:44:35 AM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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To: Osage Orange

I think it was an inside joke, because it could be considered a 'dangerous recreation.' Like some insurance policies are void if you take flying lessons or get a pilot's license.


28 posted on 03/23/2005 5:45:28 AM PST by freecopper01 (" The amount of people who are making fun of a blueprint for genocide is an alarming thing.")
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To: cyborg

"There's brunettes vs. blondes and all the stereotypes that go with it."

So true. I didn't even think about that. Don't get me started on red-haired people, like myself.


29 posted on 03/23/2005 5:45:45 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: freecopper01

"(What can I say? Regular egg shells have a tan compared to me!)"

LOL. My legs make my socks look dingy. :)


30 posted on 03/23/2005 5:47:07 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: Restorer

I remember when Fresh Prince of Bel Air was on tv. The dark skinned lady that played the first wife quit the show because they introduced a white man-black woman marriage. They replaced her with a light skinned woman which I thought was pretty funny.


31 posted on 03/23/2005 5:47:38 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: cyborg
I would guess that a fair bit of the "colorism and different cultural oddities among white people" really reflect ethnic and religious differences. Ideas of beauty, for example, differ greatly between (say) Sicilians and Scandinavians. Behavioral norms, and taste, differ enormously as well: think of the contrasts between the WASPs and the various white 'ethnics' in films like My Big Fat Greek Wedding or Mystic Pizza. While the current multicultural received wisdom is that 'ethnic' is authentic and Anglo-Saxon is repressed and somehow 'inauthentic', the WASP ideals are every bit as authentic for those raised in upper and upper-middle class mainline Protestant families.
32 posted on 03/23/2005 5:48:51 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: L98Fiero
"And when a fair skinned white guy like me puts on a pair of shorts, the insults fly about how pale I am and need to get a tan"

Is it that or is it that you look like a barrel perched on toothpicks? [cackle]

33 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:06 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Fenris6
I am currently dating a very dark American woman (I am whiter than rice). When we go out in the Detroit area she is always looking at the people around us. Afterwards she tells me about the negative reactions she observed from both blacks and whites towards us. I bring her over to Canada a lot now. Nobody seems to care much on this side.

She has also related to me the "colorism" that she has suffered at the hands of other blacks, being so dark.

34 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:54 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: CatoRenasci

"The parents and siblings of the black and native american girls had fits about them dating a white guy."

Hey, I don't mind admitting that the most racist people I know are my Indian relatives. Some will actually come out and say they hate white people.


35 posted on 03/23/2005 5:50:06 AM PST by MNnice
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To: CatoRenasci

EXACTLY


36 posted on 03/23/2005 5:52:03 AM PST by cyborg (Sudanese refugee,"Mr.Schiavo I disagree with your opinion about not feeling pain when you starve.")
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To: FlyLow

Beyonce, Venessa, Halle are all light skinned. The hottest famous dark skin woman is probably Serena, but she is only became famous because she is a tennis star. There probably is a some bias that favors light-skinned black women, just like there is a bias that favors blondes.


37 posted on 03/23/2005 5:52:10 AM PST by Always Right
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To: FlyLow
Black-on-black discrimination?

Not just black-on-black. The United States is the least prejudiced, least ethnocentric nation on the face of the earth and in the course of human history.
38 posted on 03/23/2005 5:53:06 AM PST by aruanan
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To: L98Fiero

That's a gooooood one! I need to remember that one!


39 posted on 03/23/2005 5:53:37 AM PST by freecopper01 (" The amount of people who are making fun of a blueprint for genocide is an alarming thing.")
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To: cyborg

Don't know about colorism but for sure there's thinism and fatism!!


40 posted on 03/23/2005 5:54:39 AM PST by freecopper01 (" The amount of people who are making fun of a blueprint for genocide is an alarming thing.")
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