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Michigan bill would ban medical decisions if adultery is involved
AP ^ | 3/22/2005 | Amy F. Bailey

Posted on 03/22/2005 4:03:02 PM PST by Crackingham

A Michigan lawmaker is working on legislation that would prohibit a spouse having an affair from denying food, fluids or medical treatment to a wife or husband who cannot make such decisions.

Rep. Joel Sheltrown on Tuesday said he wants to avoid a situation similar to Terri Schiavo's.

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Sheltrown, a Democrat from West Branch, said Michigan should strengthen its protections before a similar situation happens here.

"While people, in happier times, may trust their spouses to make future medical decisions for them, situations change," Sheltrown said in a statement. "In a situation where an incapacitated patient lives at the mercy of an adulterous spouse, it is in the patient's interest to make a presumption in favor of life."

Michigan law already prohibits the denial of life-sustaining treatment, such as food and water, unless the patient has expressed that such action be taken, said Sheltrown, who expects to introduce the bill in about three weeks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: adultery; blessedterri; investigatemichael; jesusmercy; prayforterri; schiavo; stupidwasteoftime; tearsforterri; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Dr. Frank fan
problematic way to deal with the situation. You get into a whole legal issue of proving adultery

well, in this case, the husband is living with another woman (for 10 years) by whom he has two kids. Is this not proof enough or do we have a new definition of adultery?

On second thought, it probably would be argued 'legally" - parsed to death. What IS the meaning of "is?"

141 posted on 03/22/2005 5:23:39 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Peach
I don't know how old you are, but when we first made out a standard/paper Will, our kids were still minors.

At present, our youngest is 36. We have 3, all married.

So when needed to update and decided to do the Living Will and Family Trust in one swoop.

All Wills should be updated as years pass. Things change.

142 posted on 03/22/2005 5:24:03 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: the Deejay

That's why we're going to the attorney in April. We're getting older :-)

I wanted to put this on a few threads so I'll put this here; that last paragraph is the most important.

As stated in 2001, by the Florida 2nd District Court of appeals in their support of the foundation ruling - which everyone should thoroughly read:
http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/2dcaorder01-01.txt

They found that there was clear and convincing evidence that she wouldn't want the tube to remain.

They also noted that Michael did not make the decision - he asked the court to listen to both sides and for the court to take his role in this matter of her tube. He did not have to do that. He could have forced he parents to challenge his legal decision from a less powerful position.


143 posted on 03/22/2005 5:26:09 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
LOLLOFLHHO

Little ole lady laying on the floor laughing her hiney off)

144 posted on 03/22/2005 5:27:27 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Peach

Tell putting it in writing and it will make a difference to Anna Nicole Smith. She was willed her husband's money and his son went to court and won against her. And now with Congress making laws what real difference does it make?


145 posted on 03/22/2005 5:28:30 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade

Now that's a darned good question and one that a lot of us are asking.


146 posted on 03/22/2005 5:29:21 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
"They also noted that Michael did not make the decision - he asked the court to listen to both sides and for the court to take his role in this matter of her tube. He did not have to do that. He could have forced he parents to challenge his legal decision from a less powerful position."


Are you trying to suggest that Micheal came up with this alllll on his own, I don't think so. This is a legal tactic and by the documents you have posted the parents did not have decent legal representation, cause they would never have said the things that give you so much pause about.
147 posted on 03/22/2005 5:30:07 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Peach
This is good.

They also noted that Michael did not make the decision - he asked the court to listen to both sides and for the court to take his role in this matter of her tube. He did not have to do that. He could have forced he parents to challenge his legal decision from a less powerful position.

148 posted on 03/22/2005 5:30:49 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Peach

I guess Anna Nicole Smith just isn't garnering the same sympathy as Terri Schiavo.


149 posted on 03/22/2005 5:32:18 PM PST by marajade
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To: Just mythoughts

HUH?

The lawyers and judges noted, for the record, just what that last paragraph says. MS did not HAVE to handle it the way he did. If you don't like that or believe it, take it up with the attorneys and judges, not with me.

And you are saying the Schindlers did not have adequate legal representation? Now, whose fault is that? Certainly not anyone's fault but their own. Are they or are they not able to hire any attorney they wish?


150 posted on 03/22/2005 5:32:32 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: marajade

Well. No. Because she's a live :-)


151 posted on 03/22/2005 5:32:57 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Same court as Terri Schiavo. Probate court.


152 posted on 03/22/2005 5:34:54 PM PST by marajade
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To: the Deejay
I hear ya! My eyes! My eyes! LOL!!

LOL

153 posted on 03/22/2005 5:35:04 PM PST by Annie03
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To: Crackingham

More poor policy driven by this Terri mess. Republicans are going to end up losing seats in congress over this. The evangelicals will really howl when the Howard Dean clones replace the Pubbies who were stampeded into voting Sunday night. Serves them right.


154 posted on 03/22/2005 5:35:19 PM PST by Dave S
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To: BedRock
Mr. Shiavo claims he can't grant Terry a divorce because it is against his religion.(LOL) But I guess his religion condones adultery??? Come on, who puts any weight in what he says about divorce when he goes and does the second???

Judge George Greer seems to believe every word that slithers out of Schiavo's mouth.
155 posted on 03/22/2005 5:37:14 PM PST by Xenalyte (I am at Dr. Venture's lab to right that which is wrong and to repair the torn curtain of time itself)
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To: BedRock
Actually your post brings up something that has troubled me for ages. And while I'm ready to don my flame retardant clothes because this will look like I'm attacking Catholics, I've seen it happen with Catholics out the wazoo. They will lie, cheat, steal, curse, commit adultry, be drunks and be involved in every other sin conceivable sin, but they can't divorce because it's against their religion.

I don't get it. Why do they partake in all the other sins, but divorce is out.

And I'm not one that believes in most situations for divorce unless it's scriptural.

156 posted on 03/22/2005 5:39:03 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Dave S

Blah, blah, blah.


157 posted on 03/22/2005 5:39:44 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Crackingham

Just one problem - Why should a court bother to enforce it?
It's probably unconstitutional because adultery is a civil right.


158 posted on 03/22/2005 5:42:43 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Dog
How would we know if the decisions a spouse is making are adverse?

well, in this case, it's pretty clear:

living with another woman 10 years, two children with her

Stops all therapy after getting million+ lawsuit "to take care of her needs the rest of her life" ('course what HE meant by "rest of" and what the awarding judge thought may have been different)

forbidding her to be fed by mouth

warehousing her in a hospice facility - (legally for the terminally ill, expected to pass on within 6 month) - not for those NOT terminally ill - and Terri wasn't - may be so any minute

Only "remembers" she once said she didn't want to be kept alive under such cricumstances - but only remembers several years AFTER the 'accident' and after collecting lawsuits.

Many disturbing reports signifying possible blame in her condition and affidavits from nurses that testify to his wanting her dead and possibly even injecting her with injurious substances (is a nurse and has access)

Oh well, no problem here - no "evidence" that he isn't a loving and devoted spouse...let's not forget, as I've heard several dimocraps say - "the sanctity of marriage" (with a straight face even)move along

159 posted on 03/22/2005 5:43:11 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: HitmanNY
How is adultery involved in a person being in a hospital?

HuH?

did you leave something out or have a typo?

(hard to believe this is an actual question...)

160 posted on 03/22/2005 5:45:13 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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