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Michigan bill would ban medical decisions if adultery is involved
AP ^ | 3/22/2005 | Amy F. Bailey

Posted on 03/22/2005 4:03:02 PM PST by Crackingham

A Michigan lawmaker is working on legislation that would prohibit a spouse having an affair from denying food, fluids or medical treatment to a wife or husband who cannot make such decisions.

Rep. Joel Sheltrown on Tuesday said he wants to avoid a situation similar to Terri Schiavo's.

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Sheltrown, a Democrat from West Branch, said Michigan should strengthen its protections before a similar situation happens here.

"While people, in happier times, may trust their spouses to make future medical decisions for them, situations change," Sheltrown said in a statement. "In a situation where an incapacitated patient lives at the mercy of an adulterous spouse, it is in the patient's interest to make a presumption in favor of life."

Michigan law already prohibits the denial of life-sustaining treatment, such as food and water, unless the patient has expressed that such action be taken, said Sheltrown, who expects to introduce the bill in about three weeks.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: adultery; blessedterri; investigatemichael; jesusmercy; prayforterri; schiavo; stupidwasteoftime; tearsforterri; terri; terrischiavo
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To: dfwgator

Hey, you want to keep people who are PVS and have no hope on machines forever. Go for it.

Write your legislators. Get the laws changed. I'm just warning people. It's going to cost a lot of money. What...you think this stuff is free?

You do understand, don't you that the medical community can keep pretty much any body alive indefinitely. Despite their non quality of life.


121 posted on 03/22/2005 4:58:03 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Dog Gone
I'm taking applications for a new internet girlfriend. Preferably over 18 but not old enough to know better.

If she's under 18, your next real girlfriend is liable to be a guy name 'Big Leon' and you are gonna answer to 'Mary'

So9

122 posted on 03/22/2005 4:59:30 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

;-)


123 posted on 03/22/2005 4:59:42 PM PST by Neets
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To: Peach
Thing I like about the Living Will is there's no probate.

If hubby dies, everything automatically goes straight to me. No lawyers, judges, court filings.

My mother died and had a regular Will, what a bloody hassle!! I learned BIG TIME from that.!

Hardly worth the paper it was written on.

124 posted on 03/22/2005 5:00:36 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Crackingham

Wouldn't it be simpler to say that unwritten evidence will not be accepted as the basis to withdraw life support?


125 posted on 03/22/2005 5:00:57 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Servant of the 9
You're just being trollish and silly.

You're wanting to base law, life, and death on a poll? We're not going to take such silliness seriously, no matter how eanestly you think you believe it.

You're a silly troll.

126 posted on 03/22/2005 5:03:56 PM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Beelzebubba
Wouldn't it be simpler to say that unwritten evidence will not be accepted as the basis to withdraw life support?

Of course, Occam rules.

127 posted on 03/22/2005 5:05:44 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: the Deejay

I must be confused. I often am these days :-) You know being on that death squad takes it out of a person. (Now watch. Someone will use that against me not understanding sarcasm).

Living Wills just pertain to the conditions under which a person does not wish to receive medical attention.

Do you mean the Trust permits you to forego probate?


128 posted on 03/22/2005 5:06:03 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Crackingham
oye. I used to love our constitution
129 posted on 03/22/2005 5:07:58 PM PST by dogbyte12 (Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?)
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To: Crackingham

All 50 states should pass the same law.
In regards to Florida. Don't hold your breath for Fla. to do anything constructive. I live in Florida and I can tell you the people who run the government here , be it city council, mayor whatever, do not do things in a forward -thinking manner.
True story. In Palatka, Fla., back in '98, the local newspaper ran an article reporting how the city can not afford to put up a traffic light at an intersection because there were not enough fatalities to warrant the city spending $7,000 for the light. There had been, over the past twenty years, the newspaper reported; five fatalities at that intersection.
Leaving me, with a question in my mind. What is a paycheck from the city worth, if you make decisions like that, in the course of your job?


130 posted on 03/22/2005 5:08:26 PM PST by onyx eyes (.... Fly over country.... the real habitat of the Real Americans....)
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To: Servant of the 9

Whoah, "assumed to want to be dead"?? Living wills are generally made to give that instruction to counter the responsible assumption that a person is assumed to want to live!


131 posted on 03/22/2005 5:09:55 PM PST by thoughtomator (Will Michael Schiavo get away with murdering his wife? Stay tuned to find out!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

LOL.

I actually think that's what some freepers think should happen.


132 posted on 03/22/2005 5:10:09 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Do you mean the Trust permits you to forego probate?

Yes, Living Will & Family Trusts are seperate.

I leaened from mu mother's standard Will, those are a worthless venture.

She had only had it redone/updated six months prior to her death.

It took four years to get it settled and there wasn't that much involved. No disputes w/heirs, etc.

133 posted on 03/22/2005 5:10:11 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Dog

Life is a series of problems that must be confronted. The proposed law deals with willful abandonment of property (spouse) and offers a way to grant ownership (care) to another entity.


134 posted on 03/22/2005 5:10:35 PM PST by sergeantdave (Smart growth is Marxist insects agitating for a collective hive.)
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To: Servant of the 9

Well, that's not a pleasant thought. Nevertheless, I haven't noted my Freepmail account being flooded with applications, either.


135 posted on 03/22/2005 5:10:59 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: savedbygrace
You're wanting to base law, life, and death on a poll? We're not going to take such silliness seriously, no matter how eanestly you think you believe it.

Choosing the government is a type of Poll. That's why we go to the polls on election day. And you better believe politicians read the polls. That's why they passed a law they knew would have no effect on Terri Schiavo. They had a small but vocal group of core voters wanting a law and a vast majority of Americans wanting the opposite, so they had a Kabuki Play and passed a fake law.

Within two years we will have a Federal Law that anyone without a Living will wishes to die if unable to speak for themselves.

So9

136 posted on 03/22/2005 5:12:22 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Peach
Our attorney gave us a type of ID card for the Living Will, along w/the paper work and it's also on a CD.

Should one of us die, the survivor only has to take the ID card to the attorney and he does all the finalizing.

Legally putting house, monies, cars, businesses, etc. in the name of the survivor.

137 posted on 03/22/2005 5:15:07 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: the Deejay

Good deal. We're revisiting our attorney in April and I will mention that to him. Great idea.


138 posted on 03/22/2005 5:18:41 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: sgtbono2002
This is great ,the government getting into the bedroom.

can someone explain this to me? (Not sgtbono - I wouldn't expect to get a reasonable explanation, only a lopsided rationale...)

But does this mean that if a spouse wants to murder his/her spouse "in the bedroom" then it's no one's business - so long's it's done in the bedroom? (sarcasm)

139 posted on 03/22/2005 5:19:59 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Dog
This is just flat out stupid.

It sure does the job of distracting attention from the core legal issue of the Schiavo case, which is to get to the bottom of the patient's wishes. Our spouses can't make us take or refuse medical treatment on their say so. And in a case where somebody is incapacitated, the question regarding stopping food and water is answered by trying to discern the patient's wishes, not their spouses wishes.

It could be that an unfaithful spouse actually has good (maybe even the best) evidence regarding the patient's wishes.

140 posted on 03/22/2005 5:20:53 PM PST by Cboldt
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