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Nancy Cruzan Case - She Took Ten Days to Die (Schiavo) 1992
Frontline PBS ^ | 1992

Posted on 03/22/2005 1:34:47 PM PST by tallhappy

Back in 1990 Nancy Cruzan was starved to death in a similar manner as currently being done to Terri Schiavo. She took 10 days to die and died shortly after Christmas day.

The Cruzan case was slightly different than Schiavo's in that Cruzan's family, with her father at the fore, lead the fight to have her feeding tube removed.

Initially Missouri law would not grant permission to starve her to death becuase there was a lack of evidence to indicate Nancy Cruzan would wish to have medical care ended.

Later the father was able to prove it to the point where a judge allowed her to be starved to death.

Right to Life activist became involved and held candle light vigils and the like in attempts to keep Nancy Cruzan from being starved to death.

This Frontline documentary was very good and I link to the transcript in the source link above.

The documentary was not meant to present the pro-life side. Yet I watched it years and years ago out of random chance and was very much persuaded by it that it was a serious act of cruelty and barbarism to kill her in that manner.

Nancy Cruzan clearly responded to stimuli and clearly responded to activists who entered the stairwell and sang hymns when she heard the songs. Her father noted the reaction and responded to her responding to the songs, reassuring as if the songs frightened her, rather than caused her eyes to have hope and her to stir and fight.

Unlike Schiavo, there were cameras in Cruzans room and what took place was not hidden.

She was clearly not a comatose vegetable and the manner in which she was killed was cruel and barbaric.


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KEYWORDS: nancycruzan; righttodie; righttolive; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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This is to link to that old Frontline documentary so people can read it and bring up the earlier Cruzan case.

Cruzan lasted 10 days. Terri Schiavo is at four days now.

This documentary was meant to promote "right to die" but had the opposite effect on me.

1 posted on 03/22/2005 1:35:03 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy

You might want to add these:

http://www.changingworldviews.com/GuestCommentaries/wesleysmitharticle6.htm

MANY DEHYDRATION CASES have involved such casual statements. The most disturbing of these was that of Marjorie Nighbert, which, ironically, also occurred in Florida. Marjorie was a successful Ohio businesswoman who was visiting her family in Alabama when she was felled by a stroke that left her disabled but not terminally ill. After being stabilized, she was moved to a nursing home in Florida where, it was hoped, she could be rehabilitated to relearn how to chew and swallow without danger of aspiration. To ensure she was nourished, she was provided a feeding tube.

This presented an excruciating quandary for her brother Maynard, who had a general power of attorney from Marjorie (not power of attorney for health care), as a consequence of which he became her surrogate medical decision-maker. Marjorie had once told her brother that she didn't want a feeding tube if she were terminally ill. Despite the fact that she was not dying, however, Maynard believed that if she were unable to be weaned off the tube, she would have wanted to die rather than live using the tube for nourishment. When she did not improve, he ordered the tube removed.

As she was slowly dehydrating to death, Marjorie began to ask the staff for food and water. In response to her pleas, members of the nursing staff surreptitiously gave her small amounts. One distraught staffer eventually blew the whistle, leading to a state investigation and a temporary restraining order requiring that Marjorie be nourished

Circuit Court Judge Jere Tolton received the case and appointed attorney William F. Stone to represent Nighbert and to conduct a 24-hour inquiry, the sole issue being whether Marjorie was competent to rescind her power of attorney and make her own decisions. After the rushed investigation, Stone was forced to report to the judge that she was not competent at that time. She had, after all been intentionally malnourished for several weeks. Stone particularly noted that he had been unable to determine whether she was competent when the dehydration commenced.

With Stone's report in hand, the judge ruled that the dehydration should be completed, apparently on the theory that Marjorie did not have the competence to request the medical treatment of food and water. Before an appalled Stone could appeal, Nighbert died on April 6, 1995.

Society's approach to the so-called "right to die" has become far too casual. None of us should be made to die because of statements made in casual conversations or due to misconstrued oral directives. The time has come for the best legal minds in the country to draft model legislation that will tighten existing laws so as to give every reasonable legal benefit of the doubt to life rather than, as too often happens now, to slow death by dehydration.

http://www.americamagazine.org/articles/ParisFinn.htm

ONCE AGAIN A "RIGHT TO DIE" case has captured national attention. What brought the issue to the fore this time were actions by some members of the family of Hugh Finn and by Governor James S. Gilmore 3rd of Virginia, who sought to block the removal of a feeding tube from Mr. Finn, who was being cared for in a nursing home in Virginia.

The facts in the case are relatively straightforward. Hugh Finn, a popular, 44-year-old news anchorperson in Louisville, Ky., ruptured his aorta in 1995 in a traffic accident. The resulting anoxic damage to his brain left him, like Karen Ann Quinlan and Nancy Cruzan, irreversibly comatose. Though he was incapable of any conscious activity, a feeding tube inserted through his abdomen supplied the nutrition and fluids necessary to sustain life.

Mr. Finn, a Catholic who had reported on the earlier cases, had drafted a written statement opposing such life-prolonging measures for himself, but at the time of his accident he had not yet signed it. His wife, with the support of her husband's sister, but over the objections of her husband's parents and his six brothers, requested that the physician remove the feeding tube and allow her husband to die. The relatives opposing that decision brought suit to block the removal of the feeding tube.

Once again issues raised in the landmark Paul Brophy and Nancy Cruzan cases were argued: that removal of life-sustaining medical technology is not allowing to die, it is killing; that the action itself, not the patient's condition, would cause the death; that food and water are not medical treatments, they are basic care; that if treated the patient could survive another 30 years; that failure to provide that care is murder.

Those arguments had been heard and rejected by every court of final jurisdiction that has reviewed "right to die" cases since Quinlan in 1976 and Brophy in 1983 first occasioned consideration of these questions. They took on renewed strength, however, when presented at a televised news conference by a state governor claiming he had a duty to intervene to protect the interests of the most vulnerable of the state's citizens.

A Prince William Circuit Court judge and subsequently the Virginia Supreme Court rejected the Governor's argument that removing the feeding tube that had sustained the severely brain damaged Hugh Finn for three and a half years would constitute euthanasia. In an emergency ruling, the Virginia Supreme Court upheld the trial court's finding that the withdrawal of nutrition and fluids from a patient in Hugh Finn's condition merely permitted the natural process of dying; it was not an illegal "mercy killing."

The politicization of the case was compounded when a local state representative, Delegate Robert B. Marshall, claimed that disconnecting the feeding tube would not only be illegal, "it would be against the teachings of the Catholic faith." "To me, the law doesn't allow it," he said. "He's not on life-support. He's not on a respirator. He's not brain dead. To me it is active euthanasia." That view was supported by the Rev. Paul de Laudurantaye, the secretary of education for the Diocese of Arlington, Va., who observed, "Mr. Finn has not yet reached the point where death is imminent. To withdraw [food and water] now would be homicide, for it is the adoption, by choice, of a proposal to kill him by starvation and dehydration. Such killing can never be morally right and ought never be permitted." On the other hand, the archbishop of Mrs. Finn's diocese, Thomas C. Kelly, O.P., of Louisville, wrote her a letter of support, assuring her that her decision fell within the framework of Catholic moral teaching. ...

Hugh Finn died at a nursing home on Oct. 9, 1998, eight days after his wife had his feeding tube removed. But that was not the end of the story. The local coroner then had the body taken to a funeral home so he could perform an autopsy. Since there was no question concerning the cause of death, the circuit court ordered the body returned to the family. That ruling finally allowed the family to lay Hugh Finn's body to rest in peace.


2 posted on 03/22/2005 1:43:37 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: tallhappy

How awful! We have to stop this type of killings in this country now! Euthenasia is criminal! Time to get some legislation passed to stop this once and for all. I believe it is to late for Terri, sad to say, but what about the next victim???

The only reason a family member would want to starve their loved one to death is cause they don't want to deal with them anymore(excpet for the HINO since I believe he wants Terri dead cause she might wake up and point fingers at him for doing things to her).

There needs to be a line drawn into what life support is and what brain dead/brain damaged is. If the person is able to breath on their own than they should be fed. If the person is brain damaged, than they should be fed! if the person is brain dead you have to let them go. I've seen a brain dead person and a person that is brain damaged. The brain dead person died that night he was brought into the ICU. The brain damaged person was on Oxygen and a feeding tube. WHY didn't they just let him go? Because his brain still said there was life and I'm sorry but unless the brain says there is no life at any place in the brain than that person must be cared for and not killed! Life is precious and to judge what a life is worth and what it isn't is just so wrong and should be made illegal!


3 posted on 03/22/2005 1:44:02 PM PST by Halls
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I don't get this starvation tactic. Why not a simple lethal injection like we do to animals. We call it "humane" for an animal. Starving to death is far from humane. I'd want the shot.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 1:47:56 PM PST by yobid
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To: yobid

Exactly!


5 posted on 03/22/2005 1:48:34 PM PST by Halls
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To: yobid

Because Schiavo has convinced himself that starvation is natural and someone will insulate him from directly causing her death. This is how people on psychotropic drugs think.


6 posted on 03/22/2005 1:51:46 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Halls

Somehow they can get a warm and fuzzy that she died of "natural" causes. It's a load of Sh*t.


7 posted on 03/22/2005 1:52:51 PM PST by yobid
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To: tallhappy

It just proves that judges cannot be expected to do justice when it comes to euthanasia.


8 posted on 03/22/2005 1:52:51 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: massgopguy

May all involved be haunted for the rest of their "natural" lives.


9 posted on 03/22/2005 1:54:21 PM PST by yobid
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To: yobid

Starvation allows them to tell themselves it wasn't their doing. They keep telling themselves that they have no obligation to feed this person. Whereas, if they administered a drug, that would be a different animal.

Of course, making a big thing about the starvation part of this will just assure that the liberals push for "assisted suicide" where Dr. Kevorkian administers a drug.


10 posted on 03/22/2005 1:55:31 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I have heard differing opinions on whether or not her husband has access to the 2+ million dollars awarded for her care. Does anyone know that if she dies, does he have access to whatever is left?


11 posted on 03/22/2005 2:02:58 PM PST by market
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To: Brilliant

"Starvation allows them to tell themselves it wasn't their doing."

It is called letting nature take its course.


12 posted on 03/22/2005 2:11:23 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: tallhappy

I can be to the town in which she lived in about ten minutes. Her father hanged himself at least ten years ago. My take is that he couldn't deal with his decision.


13 posted on 03/22/2005 2:11:38 PM PST by em2vn
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To: oldcomputerguy

Makes no sense. A baby can't feed itself either. If they don't feed their baby, they are guilty of murder.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 2:13:00 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: em2vn
Her father hanged himself at least ten years ago. My take is that he couldn't deal with his decision.

I had no idea.

You are probably right. Yet that is typical. If he lived he could have spoken out against what he did and what they are doing to Terri Schiavo. Two bad decisions.

15 posted on 03/22/2005 2:14:38 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

Bizarre Scenario:

1) In order to save her from a slow death of starvation, her father enters her room and ends her life (with a pillow).
2)Do the authorities charge him with a crime? If so, what?


16 posted on 03/22/2005 2:15:08 PM PST by opinionator
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To: yobid
"Why not a simple lethal injection like we do to animals."

We'd have to let Kevorkian go.

17 posted on 03/22/2005 2:17:26 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: opinionator
2)Do the authorities charge him with a crime? If so, what?

Maybe, maybe not. But he's committed Murder 1.

18 posted on 03/22/2005 2:18:24 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: yobid
This way we kill by neglect rather than actively killing.

Despite the fact that someone removed Terri's tube, no one will be charged with murder. They will say Terri died "naturally" from starvation.

19 posted on 03/22/2005 2:18:27 PM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: yobid

Somehow, I don't think these judges or Mike Schiavo will spend too much time being haunted by this at all.


20 posted on 03/22/2005 2:20:03 PM PST by MplsSteve
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