Minnesota School Massacre Latest Example of the Human Toll of America's Love Affair with Guns

VPC ^ | 3-22-05 | Marty Langley

[Alberta's Child]

Your original comment didn't just address minors.

As long as those individuals and organizations, in support of the Second Amendment, do not address the problem of mentally ill minors and adults shooting up the place, confiscation will be the ultimate result.

[Publius6961]

Minnesota School Massacre Latest Example of the Human Toll of America's Love Affair with Phobia over Guns.

There. I fixed it.
If anyone other than the killer had been carrying, the victim toll might have been a lot lower!

[elbucko]

I'll also point out that school violence of this sort was nonexistent before the phrase "mental health organization" was ever used in public discourse. You think that's just a coincidence?

NO!

I do think it is coincidental with the elimination of state and federal mental hospitals that began in the early 60's. Of all the societal occurrences in the last 40 years, the elimination of these hospitals and the increase in domestic gun violence correlate. Why aren't there any studies to prove it? There are! But these studies are done by the same profession that wanted to treat the dangerously ill as out-patients instead of in-patients. The most famous victim of this policy was also one of its proponents, JFK.

[goldstategop]

To liberals, a school massacre is bad, bad, bad. On the other hand, forcing the starvation of an innocent woman is good, good, good. Where's the Ethic Of Life here? Or does that solely apply to people society happens to like, such as the children?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Durus]

I guess I'm failing to see your point. Why would a second amendment organization get involved with health care groups? What should the NRA or the GOA comment on when this child took both the guns and transportation of a police officer? The derogatory "gun nut" label doesn't do much to clarify your opinion.

Do you believe in the constitution?

[elbucko]

Your original comment didn't just address minors.

And, so? I thought you knew that some states prohibit the mentally afflicted from voting. I guess you didn't!

[elbucko]

Do you believe in the constitution?

When I entered the U.S.Army in 1967, I swore to defend and protect the Constitution from her enemies. I don't remember recanting!

[MarMema]

More likely the result of the culture of death.

[Countyline]

Right on ... Compared to automobile deaths among teen agers ... this instance barely is a blip on the scale.

"America must face the fact that we have a love affair with guns that exacts a tremendous and unacceptable cost in human lives lost."

What are the odds on being ratioal about this?

[Durus]

The text and meaning of the 2nd amendment is crystal clear despite the desire to muddle the waters. If you support the constitution then the term "gun nut" shouldn't be bandied about...and I still don't understand your comment concerning the NRA or GOA.

[opinionator]

Our 'love affair with the gun' saves approx. 290 million American lives each year!

[FLCowboy,]

Of course, the violence in the media, video games, movies, rap music, etc. had nothing to do with it.

[elbucko]

The text and meaning of the 2nd amendment is crystal clear despite the desire to muddle the waters.

And the implication of your; "Do you believe in the Constitution", was the entire reason for your previous post. It was an accusation, not a question deserving my considered answer. If you would have left that off, I would be willing to entertain your ignorance.

[Zathras]

The fact that many of the people killed at Colombine were killed by pipe bombs means nothing
to gun grabbers.

[paul51]

"America must face the fact that we have a love affair with guns cars that exacts a tremendous and unacceptable cost in human lives lost.

[paul51]

However, partnering with mental health organizations to prevent MINORS from shooting up schools will go a long way to keeping the 2nd. Amendment viable.

This gun nut thinks that requiring someone to collaborate with mental health organizations to preserve their rights is a stupid idea....but oh so progressive and enlightened.

[Durus]

People went on shooting sprees before there was modern media, video games, movies, rap music, etc. Only the shooter is responsible for the shooting.

[elbucko]

This gun nut thinks that requiring someone to collaborate with mental health organizations to preserve their rights is a stupid idea....but oh so progressive and enlightened.

You can ridicule this tactic all you want, but when the government comes to confiscate your guns because of the crazies, you can refer to yourself as "unarmed".

[pankot]

The moment I saw this on Minnesota TV I said "How long before the anti-gun wackos start bleeting about gun control."

[paul51]

I have faith that there is still enough people left in this country that think clearly enough to preserve my rights...and yours rather than dream up ways to negotiate them away.