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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I'm getting pretty sick of this story (yeah, I know, I'm evil, but at least I'm honest), but I have to say that the arguments of the other side are particularly lame this time.

"The government shouldn't be involved!" Well, they didn't much mind when the judiciary was involved and SUPPORTED pulling the tube, only when congress got involved saying they shouldn't pull it.

"Her husband knows what she wanted!" And yet he didn't mention these wishes until, what, years after she got sick? And since when did a guy who's got a girlfriend and kids on the side equal the loving husband--is one who is an adulterer considered a great husband? I'm not religious and think if people want they can get a divorce from someone, but since when is adultery and having kids with someone else while still married in ANY definition of being a faithful husband? And why can't he just let the parents take over her care and go live his new life?

Plus, didn't he sue for over a million dollars which he said he would use to care for her for life? I imagine the defendent in that case will be filing a suit of their own after this.

"She shouldn't be kept alive by artificial means!" Food is now considered an artificial means?

"States rights!" Since when is it a state-sanctioned right for a husband to starve someone to death when her family doesn't want her starved to death?

"This was her wish!" We've had Living Wills for years. Those who support them, like members of my family, say if you want certain things done when you are in a coma or whatever, make the effort to get it in writing. Simple as that. And this woman didn't.

"Oh, that's just a piece of paper!" Yeah, kinda like a marriage certificate. Kinda like the papers illegal immigrants don't have. So I guess those who dismiss this piece of paper are for just taking the word of any illegal alien if he says he WANTS to be here, and that's all we need for him to be a legal immigrant?

"Big Brother!" Yes, we wouldn't want the government to start getting involved in cases which even the starvation proponents have to admit is anything but cut and dried, which would result in someone being starved to death. I mean, wow, since when is it the government's job to champion people who can't speak up for themselves who are being starved to death.

I'm not demonizing this Schiavo guy, but I have heard multiple sources claiming his wife could react, speak (imperfectly), and that he STOPPED efforts to rehabilitate this woman. So yeah, call me an advocate of Big Brother, I DO think there is a reason for the government to check this out.

I had no interest in this case at first because I thought it was about a woman on life support, and her family wanted her taken off. It was an open and shut case, to me. And then I got informed. And I refuse to be on the side of murdering the helpless. Sorry, call me a nazi; I'd rather be called a nazi by ridiculous libertarians, cranky idealists, and uninformed populists than be wrong about someone being murdered.

23 posted on 03/22/2005 10:30:47 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Agnostic for life)
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To: Darkwolf377
"Her husband knows what she wanted!" And yet he didn't mention these wishes until, what, years after she got sick?

And after he got a huge amount of money in some settlement.

29 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:04 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Darkwolf377

hey, Darkwolf - welcome aboard on the right side - you are a Lightwolf - :O)


31 posted on 03/22/2005 10:36:17 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Darkwolf377

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49 posted on 03/22/2005 10:54:44 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Darkwolf377
Great points!

If I denied my wife access to her parents and medical treatment, would I not be nailed for spousal neglect?

What about all the Christian fringe groups that denie their children treatment, dont the courts always step in?

The law treats these cases differently, but why should it?
And if the law fails us, we have no access to justice, no access to peaceful recourse...then there will be other than peaceful recourse. This goes beyond the right to life.

I know for a fact that if this was my sister, Mikey would spend the rest of his worthless life sucking oatmeal through a straw and filling his depends. I doubt there are to many on FR that would let the Judicial System aid and abet the murder of their own.
80 posted on 03/22/2005 11:52:04 AM PST by Dead Dog (T)
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To: Darkwolf377

I really appreciate your open mind. I wish others would have the humility to inform themselves of the facts.


180 posted on 03/22/2005 6:48:53 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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