Many evolutionary proponents accept evolution on the micro scale, but are unsure on the macro scale. The Christians who claim to be Bible believers and macro-evolutionists are forced to explain away passage, after passage, after passage of Biblical text and place themselves on a questionable foundation. They are forced to explain away God being the Creator of life, and the giver of spirit to man. They make God the creator of a death march that results in His creatures needing to tear each other limb from limb.
Theistic evolutionists have come up with their own religion, for it is different from the one that is revealed by God in the Bible.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
God's original intention for creation!
Isa 11:6-7
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
The horrendous death and destruction we see in our world, both among humans and animals, was brought on by Adam's sin of disobedience to his loving Creator who he walked in the garden with. Jesus Christ's ransom on the cross is the only remedy for our supporting role in Adam's sin. We can again walk with God by accepting the pardon God has offered to us.
I usually just lurk on these threads, but I'm quite curious about a detail of your beliefs -- do I understand correctly that you feel that a quote from the Bible is factual evidence on the order of "a body in motion" etc?
I read all of your posts on this thread.
How do you explain the CMB, SN1987A, the Lyman Alpha Forest, etc. They sure don't match up with Genesis. Are you absolutely positive Genesis was written as a literal description of the origin of the universe?
Hi, we might as well renew our conversation on this issue, with your permission. I still don't get how Adam could sin when he didn't yet know what sin was? And why we require pardon for an unavoidable facet of our nature (which is to sin)? You've tried to answer these questions for me in the past but I found your responses unsatisfactory and I then lost the thread...
Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.