Judge Refuses to have feeding tube reinserted in Terri Schiavo (FOX NEWS ALERT)

Fox News | 03/22/05

[tsmith130]

Just heard on Fox....so sad.

[Travis McGee]

Answer me this. If we knew for a fact that Terri was in a persistent vegetative state and that she would not want to be kept alive in such a state, would you then allow nutrition to be withheld?

We don't know that she is in a PVS, and we don't know that she ever wanted to be dehydrated to death. Your assumptions are asinine, on the order of "If my aunt had wheels instead of feet."

We have only the word of her (technical) husband about her alleged wishes. While he was battling in courts for millions of malpractice dollars, he swore he would care for her forever. After he got the money, 7 years later, he "remembered" that she didn't want to be kept alive.

You don't see a glaring conflict of interest now, in keeping this (technical) husband as her guardian? A man who has remarried in every sense except on paper?

[CAluvdubya]

If 80-90 year olds start getting this procedure, how on Earth can this country sustain the costs.

You have some very unpleasant times ahead of you. Sheesh, I never thought about cost when either one of my parents was ill. If that had been the case, My mother would have died at age 43.

[TwoSue]

Cremation is allowed in the Catholic Church. My Dad, Mom & sister werenall cremated.

[jwalsh07]

Illegal or not those two brats are BASTARDS! I hope the kids at school call them that.

Sorry, you got the wrong guy. I don't believe in visting the sins of the father on the children.

[Dave S]

Boy, you are a wonder physician. You can make diagnoses without seeing the patients

Kind of like Heart Surgeon Senator Frist in his run for President. You people are all being manipulated. If a PET Scan was done and showed that she was in persistent vegetative state, would you change your mind and allow her to die? I didnt think so. So called facts are just weapons for you.

[2nd amendment mama]

Very well said! Since the passing of Roe v Wade, the outright slaughter of millions of our most innocent has become the norm and is considered by the masses to be acceptable. Now they are after our elderly, infirm and disabled. The Third Reich would be proud. We have become what we despised and fought against 50 something years ago. May God forgive us.

[FairOpinion]

I don't think it was 19 courts, but all the courts WERE wrong, because they based everything on that hearsay evidence.

MS should never have been allowed to stay her guardian. Terri had no representation of her own.

You should go back and read the transcript of the medical malpractice suit, why do you think they awarded $1M for Terri's care, specifically, if MS had testified that she didn't want to live and he is going to stop feeding her, so she will die soon?

The award was specifically $1M for Terri's care and ANOTHER $600K for Michael for his loss.

Then, when he got his money, he suddenly wanted to withhold medical care from her and kill her.

YOU explain this.

Read the timeline:

http://www.terrisfight.net/timeline.html


1992

Aug - Terri awarded $250,000 in malpractice settlement.

Nov - Terri awarded $1.4 million in malpractice trial.

Nov - Michael Schiavo awarded $600,000 in malpractice trial.


1993

Feb - Michael Schiavo denies recommended rehabilitation treatment.

Feb - Schiavo and Terri's parents have falling out regarding lack of therapy for Terri.

Feb - Schiavo withholds medical information from Terri's parents.

Feb - Schiavo posts Do not Resuscitate order in Terri's medical chart.

Jun - Schiavo threatens Schindler family with lawsuit.

Aug - Schiavo orders medical staff not to treat Terri for potentially fatal infection.

Sep - Bob and Mary Schindler petition courts to remove Schiavo as Terri's guardian.

Nov - Schiavo admits in deposition that he knew withholding treatment of infection could result in Terri's death.

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1995

Sep - Schiavo orders Palm Gardens not to treat Terri for potentially fatal infection.


1996

Jun - Terri's parents obtain court order for access to Terri's medical records.


1997

May - Judge Shames approves Schiavo action to remove Terri's nutrition and hydration.

Jul - Schiavo's engagement to Jodi Centonze announced.

Aug - Attorney Felos's letter notifying Terri's parents of action to remove Terri's nutrition and hydration.

[Tribune7]

If we knew for a fact that Terri was in a persistent vegetative state and that she would not want to be kept alive in such a state, would you then allow nutrition to be withheld?

If all those who cared about her were in agreement there would be no controversy -- but those who care the most lost the case to one who by all rights should have forfeited his say.

What is guiding this decision is convenience not right and wrong. Godwin, aside, this is not much different than the policy of German in the 1930s and 1940s.

Further there is clearly disagreement about the state of Terri's condition.

[Dave S]

Can't Pres. Bush override this judge?

In a word No, unless he has arrested as an enemy combatant and shipped to Guantanamo.

[Salvation]

Par for a "Clinton-appointed" judge.

Please, Lord, help Terri's organs from failing.

[johnb838]

If she wants it, give it to her, dammit. If she doesn't know, doesn't care, and probably won't live very long anyway, don't.

But don't compare this to Terri. She knows and cares. The truth just needs to come out. That's the problem. The truth is not coming out.

[ContraryMary]

They've conveniently left out a few things.

If you would want to trust your care or the care of your loved ones to Hammesfahr, that is your business. Go ahead.

[Chunga]

The Supreme Court might hear an appeal now, since the U.S. House has voted this case into the federal courts.

[Tribune7]

Boy, you are a wonder physician. . . Kind of like Heart Surgeon Senator Frist in his run for President.

Really??? You're a physician like Frist? I don't think so.

[longtermmemmory]

Fox news dynamic polls are dramatically wrong at times. Remember the same poll showed kerry ahead days before the election.

I think it is a valid concern with these polls to consider if people wanted the federal government involved or did they HAVE to get involved because of the local court acctions.

The people I have spoken to suggest that giving mere access to federal courts is not wrong. The MSM is trying to spin this as a congress ordering something done. The only thing congress did was to give them access to the courts.

BTW NEW DNC TALKING POINT: No parent wants to burry their child.

[Modernman]

You are gravely mistaken. This entire case rests on hearsay evidence, which is NOT acceptable by law.

The hearsay rule has a whole host of exceptions. One of these exceptions, IIRC, deals with a situation where the person who made the original statement is no longer available to testify.

[CAluvdubya]

If a PET Scan was done and showed that she was in persistent vegetative state, would you change your mind and allow her to die? I didnt think so. So called facts are just weapons for you.

General assumptions are not a useful tool in a discussion.

First, you might wonder why a PET scan has not been performed. Why do we continue to do research to further medical advancements if those advancements are not used to the fullest?

[johnb838]

I do. The sins of the father are visited on the sons unto the third and fourth generations. BASTARDS! ADULTERER! MURDERER!

Basically I just want to keep it fresh that this is sinful, scandalous, infamous behavior and it is that whether this degraded society thinks so or not.

[longtermmemmory]

If the 11th votes the temp order down the USSC will probably reject this.

The next step after that will be to demand the full hearing ASAP.

If the Tampa Fed Judge schedules a hearing after "day six" he has already ruled.

[maica]

HIPAA has been the elephant in this room all along. Imagine what tales the staff who have cared for Terri would share if they weren't silenced by HIPAA. The staff cannot even "legally" share info with Terri's blood relatives.