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Judge Refuses to have feeding tube reinserted in Terri Schiavo (FOX NEWS ALERT)
Fox News | 03/22/05

Posted on 03/22/2005 3:26:06 AM PST by tsmith130

Just heard on Fox....so sad.


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To: ohioWfan
(Modernman wasn't asking the question because he wanted to know what I thought. His question was designed to entrap)

Didn't work, did it?

;)

1,121 posted on 03/22/2005 2:21:08 PM PST by Netizen (jmo)
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To: Netizen
Nope.

Those of us who were created are brighter than those who evolved think we are. ;o)

1,122 posted on 03/22/2005 2:22:51 PM PST by ohioWfan (The trumpet of freedom has been sounded, and that trumpet never calls retreat. (George W. Bush))
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To: joanie-f

I only wish that I could say what you say so well.

Would that I could appoint you as Terri's guardian. She would be well served.


1,123 posted on 03/22/2005 2:35:41 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: joanie-f
the ‘rule of law’ in our republic has found itself surreptitiously transformed into a spiderweb of irrational ‘legalities’ that no longer have any foundation in ‘justice’.

Amen.

1,124 posted on 03/22/2005 2:51:09 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: ohioWfan
Those of us who were created are brighter than those who evolved think we are

Now, THAT's a tagline, if I ever heard one. Well-said, oWf!

1,125 posted on 03/22/2005 3:21:59 PM PST by Otta B Sleepin
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To: Admin Moderator
We also control the Mod branch. Adios.

FOFLMAO !

1,126 posted on 03/22/2005 4:09:38 PM PST by tomkat
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To: lil'bit
It's The Empire Journal. I think they are allowed to make up "facts"....or else the Schindler crowd is.
1,127 posted on 03/22/2005 5:09:32 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: nv_independent

Sheesh...didn't think I'd need a sarcasm tag with *that* post!


1,128 posted on 03/22/2005 5:16:18 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Modernman

"One of these exceptions, IIRC, deals with a situation where the person who made the original statement is no longer available to testify."


Nobody asked Terri and she was and is alive.

Not to mention, that MS's hearsay evidence has been contridicted by others, and that MS suddenly "remembered" this after several years and after he got the over $1M settlement.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1368394/posts?page=5#5

and http://www.terrisfight.net/timeline

check out 1992-1993 and 1997 specifically.


1,129 posted on 03/22/2005 5:48:12 PM PST by FairOpinion (Only liberals want life for criminals and terrorists and death for defenseless innocents.)
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To: Mo1
Is that the one who had no medical experience?

Do you have medical experience? Have an opinion on this?

1,130 posted on 03/22/2005 5:51:07 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

I did not know they were only married for 5 months when this happened.

As for the Church, I do not know why the marriage can not be annuled. Even if the Church does so, it has absolutely no legal standing.


1,131 posted on 03/22/2005 6:21:11 PM PST by Brytani ("Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work - Edison)
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To: Otta B Sleepin
You know, you're right about that, Otta.

I think I'll change mine. :o)

1,132 posted on 03/22/2005 7:13:42 PM PST by ohioWfan (Those of us who were created are brighter than those who evolved think we are...)
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To: Gondring
Do you have medical experience? Have an opinion on this?

What does that have anything to do with this?

I have lots of opinions

But the Court didn't ask me

1,133 posted on 03/22/2005 7:14:21 PM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: Polybius

Would you help us laymen?
Can a person with this type of brain damage feel pain, and other stimuli? This death by dehydration seems terribly cruel to me, and sounds very painful.

Thanks.


1,134 posted on 03/22/2005 7:19:31 PM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dave S

"Dont worry she doesnt. She is unaware of herself or what is going on around her."

Ah, I see you have been reading the news..... avoiding the actual facts of this case.


1,135 posted on 03/22/2005 9:07:11 PM PST by whenigettime (Lookin for clever tag lines.......)
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To: Jeff Head
"[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man." Samuel Adams

Only too true.

1,136 posted on 03/22/2005 10:21:12 PM PST by marron
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To: Mo1

Just asking. Like you were asking about the guardian ad litem.


1,137 posted on 03/23/2005 3:44:10 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: FBD
Would you help us laymen? Can a person with this type of brain damage feel pain, and other stimuli? This death by dehydration seems terribly cruel to me, and sounds very painful.

Well, first of all, I have absolutely no idea what "this type of brain damage" is since the Michael Schiavo side seems to have done everything they could to prevent the complete workup that would be done if exactly the same type of patient named "Jane Doe" presented to a Neurology Department at St. Elsewhere Medical Center in the year 2005.

That is what bothers me about this case.

Here we have Judge Greer, a Probate Judge who has a mindset that tells him that a dead body is part of his job and would not know his own caudate nucleus from his dentate line if his own life depended on it making decisions based on what, in the year 2005, would be considered ancient medical data.

Terri Schiavo could have cortical functions and some degree of consciousness for all I know.

Terri Schiavo could be nothing more than a brain stem giving marching orders to her vital organs for all I know.

I have no idea.

All I know is that Judge Greer and Michael Schiavo are dead set (no pun intended) in making sure that Terri Schiavo does not get assessed with year 2005 technology and therapy trial.

In regards to death by dehydration, I have seen it often in elderly patients and the current medical conventional wisdom says that the patient feels nothing. Then again, no patient has come back from the grave to give me a report.

For me, personally, it gives me the creeps and I have told my family that if it ever gets to that point that they should "accidentally" turn up the morphine drip and let me go fast as I do not want to take the chance that my last ten days will be spent in a twilight sleep with a sensation of raging thirst.

1,138 posted on 03/23/2005 6:46:21 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius

Thank you for posting, and for the follow up explanation.


1,139 posted on 03/23/2005 7:15:43 AM PST by didi (gimme your tater tots)
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To: Polybius; Landru

Pining Landru to Polybius' excellant, very informative post:

>"... the Michael Schiavo side seems to have done everything they could to prevent the complete workup that would be done if exactly the same type of patient named "Jane Doe" presented to a Neurology Department at St. Elsewhere Medical Center in the year 2005."<

- That's a point I hadn't considered, all the advances in medicine, why not give it a shot? He had plenty of cash, (before he wasted it on lawyers) to have her taken to the best neurology center available.

- Have you reviewed this bone scan document? (you have to copy and paste it to your browser, to get it to open. Clicking on it will give you a 404 server error.)

http://www.terrisfight.org/images/bonescan.jpg



Terry Schiavo bone scan showing trauma:

On May 6th, 1990, two months after the mysterious incident that left Terri Schindler Schiavo severely mentally disabled, Dr. Hamilton, an Orthopedic Surgeon, examined her. A year later Terri was demonstrating painful reactions to physical therapy treatment, so on March 5, 1991, the Mediplex therapist director ordered a bone scan.

This bone scan revealed a healed broken right femur bone and healed bone fractures in Terri Schindler Schiavo’s ribs, pelvis, spine and ankle.

Dr. W. Campbell Walker concluded that Terri has a history of trauma and presumed that the other multiple areas of abnormal activity also relate to previous trauma."

http://www.terrisfight.org/images/bonescan.jpg



>"Here we have Judge Greer, a Probate Judge who has a mindset that tells him that a dead body is part of his job and would not know his own caudate nucleus from his dentate line if his own life depended on it making decisions based on what, in the year 2005, would be considered ancient medical data."<

yeah...This Greer is an incompetent SOB...
- Have you seen this info about Judge Greer?
Open letter from a retired sheriff in Florida:
http://www.rense.com/general63/retiredsheriffspeaks.htm

Or this- (follow the money from Felos and company to contributions to Judge Greer:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1368808/replies?c=141


1,140 posted on 03/23/2005 10:27:31 AM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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