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Michael Schiavo to Bush: Come down to visit Terri
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/21/05 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 03/21/2005 6:02:28 PM PST by wagglebee

Michael Schiavo, reportedly angered by the latest developments in Washington, has done an about-face in his longstanding position of not allowing visitors to meet his estranged wife, Terri, the brain-injured Florida woman whose right to live is at the heart of a cliff-hanging euthanasia battle.

According to the St. Petersburg Times, Schiavo invited both President Bush and his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, to visit Terri at the hospice where she is undergoing a court-ordered starvation death after her feeding tube was removed Friday.

"Come down, President Bush," Schiavo said in the Times interview Saturday. "Come talk to me. Meet my wife. Talk to my wife and see if you get an answer. Ask her to lift her arm to shake your hand. She won't do it.

She won't, because she can't, said Schiavo.

"Terri died 15 years ago," he said, referring to her collapse in 1990 that cut off oxygen to her brain, leaving her seriously brain injured and unable to talk.

A handful of physicians say she is in a persistent vegetative state -- that is, she may seem to be alert and awake, but the smiles and laughter she exhibits are simply reflex actions. Florida law permits removal of feeding tubes from patients who are PVS.

More than 40 physicians and therapists have weighed in on the side of Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, who maintain she is aware, though seriously impaired, and could improve with therapy.

Regarding his invitation to the president, Schiavo said he made a similar offer to Gov. Bush last week but has not had a reply.

Schiavo described U.S. House Majority Leader Bill Frist, who led the effort to extend Terri's life, as a "little slithering snake" pandering for votes.

"To make coments that Terri would want to live, how do they [members of Congress] know?" he asked.

"What color are her eyes?" he demanded. "What's her middle name? What's her favorite color? They don't have any clue who Terri is. They should all be ashamed of themselves."

Schiavo's invitations to the president and his brother represent an exception to his long-standing ban on visitors, which has kept Terri in near-total seclusion at the Woodside Hospice Facility in Pinellas Park, Fla. Only her parents and siblings are allowed ready access. All others, including her priest and the attorneys representing her parents, may visit only when accompanied by an immediate family member.

Nancy Valko, a critical care nurse in St. Louis activist on euthanasia and related pro-life issues, reacted with caution to Schiavo's invitation to the president and governor.

"Hopefully, Terri is not being sedated or is too debilitated now from the dehydration to be seen, but it doesn't look good if Michael is saying this," she commented. "Personally, I think the fear of having Terri seen by the authorities and/or public is what was behind the quick removal of feedings Friday. Otherwise, why has Michael refused to allow pictures or to allow Terri outside?"

Except when she is taken to a whirlpool bath, Terri never leaves her room -- not even to attend functions offered all other residents, such as sing-alongs and concerts. This past Christmas, when "Santa Claus" visited the hospice, her door was kept firmly shut to prevent the jolly gentleman from catching a glimpse of her, and she of him. Carolers, too, were barred.

Even Judge George Greer, who has presided over the contentious case since September 1999, has not met Terri, having been persuaded by Schiavo's attorney, "right-to-die" advocate George Felos, not to visit her at the nursing home where she then was living.

On January 10, 2000 - just days before the trial that sealed Terri's fate was scheduled to begin - attorney Pamela Campbell, who represented Terri's parents, formally asked Greer if he would visit the disabled woman so he could see for himself how alert she is.

At a hearing on the matter, Felos argued that since both parties had agreed Terri was in a persistent vegetative state, to observe the patient was futile and unnecessary.

The judge accepted Felos' arguments, rejecting the opportunity to see for himself the woman whose life was in his hands.

The ban on visitation, which Schiavo defends as a necessary protection of his wife's privacy, came after a short video was played to the court during the 2000 trial, showing Terri alert and interacting with her parents.

The video, played at the trial over the objections of Felos, later was released to the public and run on a local TV channel.

Upon seeing the tape on TV, three physicians contacted the Schindlers offering to help.

Robert Schindler took each doctor in turn to the nursing home to meet his daughter. They were there long enough to see she was not in a persistent vegetative state, Schindler said, and they signed separate affidavits to that effect.

They also asked to be allowed to intervene in the case, but Greer rejected their requests and granted a motion by Felos for a no-visitation policy. Aside from nurses and her attending physician, the three doctors were the last professionals to have any contact with Terri for more than two years.

Other physicians in 2001 stated they believe Terri Schiavo is not PVS, but have been limited to basing their opinion on observing videotapes.

This holds for the 33 physicians who recently signed affidavits stating she is minimally conscious "or better," as opposed to being PVS.

Terri's eyes are brown

In his interview with the St. Petersburg Times, Schiavo took particular umbrage at no one knowing what color his estranged wife's eyes are. They are brown.

But a neurologist personally selected by Schiavo and Felos to examine Terri prior to a medical hearing was unable to recall that particular fact on the witness stand.

In Oct. 2002, following a series of legal maneuvers by the Schindlers, the Second District Court of Appeal ordered a medical evidentiary hearing to determine whether Terri is, in fact, in a persistent vegetative state, and if she is, what treatments might help her.

Dr. Melvin Greer, chairman of the University of Florida's College of Medicine in Gainsville, was one of two physicians chosen by Felos to examine her.

After performing a few bedside procedures to test her vision and hearing and general reflexes, Dr. Greer diagnosed Terri to be in a persistent vegetative state, for which there was no treatment. To test what he actually remembered about her, attorney Pat Anderson, representing the Schindlers, asked Dr. Greer what color Terri's eyes are.

"I don't know," he declared simply.

"She has huge brown eyes," Anderson told Judge Greer in her closing remarks.

"If you remember nothing else about her, you remember that."

When questioned by Anderson, Dr. Greer admitted he had not read a certain, major article in a British medical journal reporting a 43 percent error rate in PVS diagnoses over a five-year period.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; georgewbush; indict; indict4insulinstory; indict4nursestory; indictmichaelnow; indictonpolicereport; indictshiavo; jebbush; michaelschiavo; prolife; righttolife; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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To: MilspecRob
Terri shuffled off this mortal coil 15 years ago.
George FELOS! Whussup?!?
181 posted on 03/21/2005 9:14:09 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: MacDorcha

"And that's how the ancient clans settled their differences."

Next history lesson at 1....;))


182 posted on 03/21/2005 9:16:21 PM PST by Salamander
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To: superiorslots

See posts

#88

#109

and #147

These are not "hearsay" these are verified by any source that discloses them. (example: the MSM doesn't mention MC's second woman, but it doesn't deny it either. Lifenews.com, however, releases this information freely.)


183 posted on 03/21/2005 9:16:53 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: Mad Mammoth
I told you guys....Hamlet.

Think Hamlet....;)

184 posted on 03/21/2005 9:17:37 PM PST by Salamander
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To: hleewilder

Good post. Strange, you know the Jan. 1993 medical malpractice suit that he won, it was due to the fact that he claimed that doctors failed to diagnose her as being bulemic, and this is what caused her subsequent cardiac arrest. That case was heard by a jury and they won, and got a large settlement.

Now if you think about it, if there was any hint of the possibility of abuse being the cause of her injury, that would be when it would've come out. Those doctors would've been all over that like white on rice defending themselves against the malpractice suit. But there was never any mention of it. The abuse alegations never existed until many years later when people started to dislike Michael Schiavo.

Bones


185 posted on 03/21/2005 9:17:49 PM PST by Bones75
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To: Boardwalk

Michael Schiavo's former girlfriend speaks: Excerpts From Cynthia Shook's May 8, 2001 Deposition given in fear
In a previous Hyscience post, Carole Lieberman, M.D., M.P.H., Psychiatrist and expert medical witness, and the author of the book, Bad Boys: Why We Love Them, How to Live with Them and When to Leave Them, was quoted as saying, "I have studied men who exhibit pathology in their relationships with women. Profiles of the twelve different types of bad boys are explained. Michael Schiavo fits the profile, described in the book as the Prince of Darkness (see chapter 13). O.J. Simpson was cited as a classic example of this type, and there are indeed similarities between the two men. It is especially significant to note that O.J. flew into a homicidal rage when he realized that Nicole was totally abandoning him, as is characteristic of these impulsive men who most dread being abandoned by their woman. Similarly, Michael Schiavo was likely to have known that Terri had begun making plans to divorce him, since she had told a coworker and family member. Stalking is characteristic of this type of man, as well. And a girlfriend of Michael’s, Cindy, accused him of stalking her in 2001."

This is the story of "Cindy," and the deposition that she had to be forced to give, out of her fear of Michael Schiavo. Terri was also afraid of Michael, but of course Michael has been hard at work to make sure that she can't give a deposition as Cindy has!

In late 1991, 1½ years after Terri’s collapse, Michael Schiavo became involved in an intimate relationship with Cindy Shook. The romance continued for approximately one year. It can be documented that the two spent a weekend at the Don Caesar hotel in St. Petersburg Beach and they also contacted a Century 21 Realtor on the premise of purchasing a home.

In May of 1992, at the apex of the romance, Schiavo had Terri’s 2 pet cats euthanized to clear the way for his moving in with Cindy and her pet dog.

In the summer of 1992, Schiavo moved into his parent’s home. We can speculate with reasonable accuracy, it was at the instructions of his attorney, since the living arrangement would be contrary to Schiavo’s "loving husband" image they were projecting for the upcoming November 1992 malpractice trial.

In April 2001, Cindy Shook (married name Brasher) was interviewed by an investigator working in Terri’s behalf. Unwilling to come forward because of her immense fear of Schiavo, Cindy had to be subpoenaed and was then subsequently deposed on May 8, 2001 to try and learn more regarding her intimate knowledge of Michael Schiavo’s character traits.

Excerpts; May 8, 2001 Deposition:

Cindy Shook describing Schiavo’s possessiveness.

"he’s very jealous. He stalked me at my…at where I worked after I stopped dating…when he would get mad at me he would tell me, I would rather be laying in bed in the nursing home with her than with you. I mean he can be the most incredibly mean person"

When asked if she were afraid that Michael would physically harm her or if he would harm children.

"I am concerned about retaliation because I have a child -I have children and a husband. I know him, I know what he told me I said he could be a very mean person."

She spoke of how Schiavo stalked her for close to a year after the breakup and that she received repeated phone calls.

"He came on the floor looking for me several times. I felt it was out of character for him to get a job as an orderly at the hospital That was concerning to me. When he would come up to the floor looking for her she was not scared the first time but later was scared.

In town I would look up when I was driving…not at my work- she would look up in the rear view mirror and there would be Michael Schiavo. I would look up and he would be behind me in traffic. It continued for several months after he didn’t work at the hospital. She would change lanes, try to make a turn and he would do the same. He did this about ten times.

One time he was behind me in traffic he got next to me in a two-lane going the same way, and he changed lanes basically right on top of where I was at, and I had to swerve not to be hit. I had to swerve off the road. Michael ran me off the road. I considered it as stalking, dangerous and guessed potentially life threatening."

Cindy thought about getting a restraining order. She talked to an off duty police officer in her building

They discussed marriage. She said Schiavo asked what would you do if I asked you to marry me. He never discussed getting a divorce.

Cindy said Schiavo got angry when asked questions about Terri saying:

"this had destroyed his life and he was being robed of a normal life."

Regarding Terri’s care, according to Cindy Shook, Michael Schiavo said,

"How the hell should I know we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."

THEY NEVER SPOKE OF THIS! Yet now Michael claims that Terri's wish was to die of starvation and dehydration, and the infamous Judge George Greer rubber stamps it. Why?


186 posted on 03/21/2005 9:18:37 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: MacDorcha

"Logan's Run"....;)


187 posted on 03/21/2005 9:18:41 PM PST by Salamander
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To: TigersEye

Good catch, Tiger...:)


188 posted on 03/21/2005 9:19:30 PM PST by Salamander
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To: TigersEye
Congress should step aside and let the President handle this.

Let me amend that to say "Congress should step aside and ask the President to handle it."

189 posted on 03/21/2005 9:20:52 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Bones75

"Those doctors would've been all over that like white on rice defending themselves against the malpractice suit."

Wouldn't that logic only apply if the doctors where not in fact malpracticing?

If the doc's had no way of knowing (ignorance of patient) then they couldn't defend themselves. Just because the Phd's were proven wrong in the court of law, does not mean Michael was in the right.


190 posted on 03/21/2005 9:21:40 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: Salamander

Thank you.


191 posted on 03/21/2005 9:23:27 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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To: Salamander

Do you just sneak into my house when I'm asleep and take a catalogue of my books from my shelves?


192 posted on 03/21/2005 9:24:01 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: MacDorcha

"If the doc's had no way of knowing (ignorance of patient) then they couldn't defend themselves. Just because the Phd's were proven wrong in the court of law, does not mean Michael was in the right."

True, but if that is the case, than that means that bulemia was the cause of her collapse and that makes it a moot point anyway.

Bones


193 posted on 03/21/2005 9:24:09 PM PST by Bones75
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To: Salamander

I have done the deed. Didst thou not hear a noise?


194 posted on 03/21/2005 9:24:13 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Bones75

"True, but if that is the case, than that means that bulemia was the cause of her collapse and that makes it a moot point anyway. "

No, it means the doctors didn't pay attention.


195 posted on 03/21/2005 9:25:28 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: Boardwalk

Thought that was Macbeth....


196 posted on 03/21/2005 9:26:03 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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To: MacDorcha

I'm working my way there.


197 posted on 03/21/2005 9:27:24 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: MacDorcha

If bulimia were alleged, would defendants perform x rays on bones?


198 posted on 03/21/2005 9:27:58 PM PST by Salamander
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To: Bones75

if there was any hint of the possibility of abuse being the cause of her injury.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1367576/posts?page=147#147

http://libertytothecaptives.net/hammesfahr_dr._report.html


I was asked to examine Terri Schiavo per the request of
the Second District Court of Appeal. They requested that
current information about her present medical condition be
obtained. They also requested that an evaluation be
performed to ascertain treatment options.

SNIP... Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain
(cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once
before, a patient who was asphyxiated.


199 posted on 03/21/2005 9:29:30 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Salamander

No, they'd likely try to look for an anurism or check her blood sugar levels... Thats just what I can recall from my volunteer work at a hospital.

Obvioiusly this doesn't make me in any way an official on this... but it seems thats how it would have been done.


200 posted on 03/21/2005 9:30:02 PM PST by MacDorcha ("Do you want the e-mail copy or the fax?" "Just the fax, ma'am.")
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