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President Bush was asleep, came out in hallway, signed Schiavo bill and went back to bed
Drudge Report ^ | March 21, 2005

Posted on 03/21/2005 3:03:37 PM PST by RWR8189

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To: TightyRighty

Neither Elian nor his father are or were American citizens. Nor was that incident a matter of life and death for Elian.


61 posted on 03/21/2005 5:59:33 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: T.Smith
She died 15 years ago.

Oh, great. An other one who doesn't GET IT.

62 posted on 03/21/2005 6:02:07 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: RWR8189

It's good to see a president who supports life.


63 posted on 03/21/2005 6:02:42 PM PST by youngtory (Rights are rights are rights. Just like a proof is a proof is a proof.-Liberal dorks.)
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To: T.Smith
Imagine your daughter/son lying in a hospital with them not being allowed to be fed. You said,"She died 15 years ago." Her heart is breathing, she's awake, I don't know what you're talking about.
64 posted on 03/21/2005 6:06:52 PM PST by youngtory (Rights are rights are rights. Just like a proof is a proof is a proof.-Liberal dorks.)
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To: Uncle George
"Thanks GOD, for a real President."

Now if we could just see a real judge.

65 posted on 03/21/2005 6:07:38 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: Sonny M


http://pro.lookingat.us/TeddyJo.html


66 posted on 03/21/2005 6:10:32 PM PST by devolve (WWII : http://pro.lookingat.us/RealHeros.html Kerry-Heinz : http://pro.lookingat.us/RealZeros.html)
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To: T.Smith
"How about a separate section of the site so that more of us can talk about NEWS without wading through pages of Shiavo talk?"

HELLO???? It IS news, AND it's important to the future of the nation. What's the matter? Cutting too much into the play by play of the Michael Jackson trial for you?

67 posted on 03/21/2005 6:10:46 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: Uncle George

Thank God!


68 posted on 03/21/2005 6:20:15 PM PST by hope (Choose Life! Deuteronomy 30:19)
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To: youngtory
"It's good to see a president who supports life."

And who, apparently has some grasp of the gravity of the situation.

69 posted on 03/21/2005 6:24:19 PM PST by sweetliberty (Somebody please pull the death brigade's feeding tube!)
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To: T.Smith
This seems to refute that she died 15 years ago, is a "vegtable" and needs a feeding tube to eat.

Here is another MD's report.

He tried to testify for her and was ignored.(William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.) It is basically his final conclusion of Terri's condition. I have left out parts because it is lengthy but I think you can get the jest.

If any one tries to tell you this MD is a quack like I have seen on other threads..ask yourself why our state reps/mds voted yes. Are they all quacks too? Impression:

The patient is not in coma.

She is alert and responsive to her environment.

She responds to specific people best.

She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal praise.

She responds negatively to poor tone of voice.

She responds to music.

She differentiates sounds from voices.

She differentiates specific people's voices from others.

She differentiates music from stray sound.

She attempts to verbalize.(!!!!!)

She has voluntary control over multiple extremities

She can swallow.(!!!!)

She is partially blind

She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.

She can feel pain.

On this last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice show frequent medication administered for pain by staff.

With respect to specifics and specific recommendations in order to carry out the instructions of the Second District Court of Appeal:

From a neurological standpoint: The patient appears to be partially blind.

She needs a full opthamological (eye) evaluation and visual evoked potentials done to flash and checkerboard patters. The opthamological examination is to evaluate her retina and her ophthalmic nerve to try to determine the cause of her visual limitations and if any treatment exists. The evoked potentials looks at the nerve between the eye and the visual centers in the brain, to see if there is treatable damage and the type of damage, if any in these areas.

This is important, as for individuals to interact with her...

*snip*

Communication: She can communicate. She needs a Speech Therapist, Speech Pathologist, and a communications expert to evaluate how to best communicate with her and to allow her to communicate and for others to communicate with her.

Also, a treatment plan for how to develop better communication needs to be done.

*snip*

ENT: The patient can clearly swallow, and is able to swallow approximately 2 liters of water per day (the daily amount of saliva generated). Water is one of the most difficult things for people to swallow. It is unlikely that she currently needs the feeding tube.(!!!!!) She should be evaluated by an Ear Nose and Throat specialist, and have a new swallowing exam.

*snip*

Her physical exam and videotapes also suggest a spinal cord injury is also present, as she has much better control over he face, head, and neck, than over her arms and legs.

This reminds one of a person with a spinal cord injury who has good facial control, but poor use of arms and legs. It is possible that a correctable spinal abnormality such as a herniated disk may be found that could be treated and result in better neurological functioning. This should be looked for, as may be treatable.

Thus, there may be an injured disk or spinal cord; the disk injury is more treatable, the spinal cord injury, if present without a disk injury, may be more difficult to treat.

A person with a spinal cord injury and hypoxic encephalopathy will need different treatment and rehab recommendations than one who just has a hypoxic encephalopathic.

Interestingly, I have seen this pattern of mixed brain (cerebral) and spinal cord findings in a patient once before, a patient who was asphyxiated.

*snip*

____________________________ William M. Hammesfahr, M.D.

70 posted on 03/21/2005 7:56:37 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: nutmeg

bttt


71 posted on 03/21/2005 11:51:48 PM PST by lainde
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To: hershey

Exactly. Liberals are very pro-choice for those doing the choosing; not so for those doing the dying.


72 posted on 03/22/2005 3:24:18 AM PST by Tabi Katz
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