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Israel's New Jerusalem Plan Angers Palestinians [Israel to 'Cement its Hold on Jerusalem']
Reuters ^ | Mon Mar 21 | Dan Williams

Posted on 03/21/2005 1:49:56 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Israel plans to build 3,500 new homes for Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank to cement its hold on Jerusalem, government sources said Monday, drawing Palestinian warnings that peace efforts were at risk.

The blueprint for construction between the Maaleh Adumim settlement and Arab East Jerusalem clashed with a U.S.-backed peace "road map," despite hopes for a breakthrough buoyed by a truce Israel and the Palestinian Authority declared last month.

The road map requires a halt to settlement expansion in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, captured by Israel in the 1967 Middle East war and sought by Palestinians for a future state.

But President Bush said in 2004 that Israel, which intends to quit occupied Gaza this summer, could expect to keep some West Bank settlement blocs under a final peace accord.

However, Bush also expressed support for establishment of a Palestinian state that is viable and contiguous.

Israeli government sources said Sharon last week approved the construction plan, drawn up six years ago, for 3,500 new homes east of Jerusalem.

Israel regards all of Jerusalem as its undivided capital, a claim that is not recognized internationally. The Palestinians, who want East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state, accused Israel of poor faith in peacemaking.

"By expanding settlements in the West Bank, Israel gives the impression that it intends to exchange Gaza for a 'Greater Israel'," said Palestinian Planning Minister Ghassan al-Khatib.

"Israel is responsible for any consequences resulting from this continuous violation of the road map," he said. "I don't think the Palestinian leadership and people can tolerate this."

Asked about the new project, a U.S. official said: "We expect Israel to abide by its commitments under the road map."

(Excerpt) Read more at story.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; israel; jerusalem; palestine; roadmaptopeace; waronterror
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1 posted on 03/21/2005 1:49:56 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Israel should voluntarily cease to exist. Anything short of that irritates the Palestinians and the Arabs. All infidels should cease to exist everywhere in the world, by Allah !!!!


2 posted on 03/21/2005 1:51:54 PM PST by jolie560
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Dear Palikillers:

What part of "Jerusalem in not negotiable" don't you understand?

3 posted on 03/21/2005 2:02:44 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Message to Arik the Overweight Lion of Judah.

You might aswell just push the Arab out of all East Jerusalem now and build.

Give the shreiking Mufti of Jerusalem 48 hrs notice to vacate temple mount.
Travel lite....clock is ticking.

How could you ...you Helenist Jew,
How could you let the Arab desecrate Hevrons Holy ground.

Jerusalam is nothing spirutally in comparison to what occured at Hevron and whats there.

At least commit to something hey....
Seeing that you have forsaken your **True Jewish Heritage...let Arabs urinate on the Holy Ground and send you a Kodak or an VHS of their afternoon outing.

Will the *REAL ISRAEL please stand up!!

article excerpt:

What is the meaning of this special additional blessing given to Avraham, the privilege given to him but not to his son and grandson, that a blessing is specially called by his name?

The Prisha explains based on the commentary of Rav Eliahu Mizrachi (Re’em) on this verse. The blessing given to Avram begins with the blessing that he will be made into a great nation. All of the following blessings are built on that blessing: “The Holy One, blessed be He, doesn’t designate His name on a single person, but rather on an entire nation.”

“Magen Avraham”. The Midrash states that Avram was concerned, “Perhaps someone else will come along who will be even more outstanding in mitzvot and good deeds, and his covenant will displace mine!” HaShem’s blessing to Avram “I am a shield to you” reassures him that his covenant is specially shielded (Bereshit Rabba on 15:1).

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L.S. coments:

Is Israel a Spiritual reality....the result of a unique freindship from long ago.
Or just a reality lofted upon some determination and some world guilt after WW-2 masscare run.

How can Israel be Israel with Hevron in the midst of an Esau garbage dump!!

Hevron is Holy

6 posted on 03/21/2005 2:23:50 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: West Coast Conservative

Is there another city in all of Israel more significant or important that Jerusalem? I don't think so.

Be I also am aware that the Temple WILL be rebuilt - and in it's original location - but there's this little problem known as "Dome of the Rock" in the way. That and a bunch of murderous Islamist Palestinians....


7 posted on 03/21/2005 2:50:07 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz

Your facts are WRONG!!!!! BUT AN ARAB Sympathizer does not need to get facts right all you need is NAZI PROPOGANDA!!!! There were only 24 people killed in Deir Yassin. Those people were killed because they had originally surrendered to the Irgun. After they surrendered to the Irgun they than hid behind women and children and opened fire on the Jews. FACTS ARE FACTS. Before Deir Yassin there was several busloads of DOCTORS going from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem – they had Red Cross flags on them. When the Busses were going through a Valley the ARAB TERRORISTS – (there is no such thing as a palestinian – there never has been, there never will be ) massacred more than 400 innocent medical personal!!!! During World War Two the Mufti of Jerusalem with the AID of the NAZIS helped massacre Tens of thousands of Jews throughout Europe. NEXT FACT THERE WERE MORE JEWS FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES in ARAB LANDS than Arabs who left Israel, what about compensation for them? . There was no number even close to 700,000 that you claim? WHERE ARE YOUR FACTS— PROBABLY BASED ON NAZI PROPAGANDA?!


8 posted on 03/21/2005 4:20:45 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz

Muhammad said the Jews would forever wander the earth without a homeland as punishment for corrupting the Bible, and that the Koran, supplied by him was the only true copy. He also said that in the end of days, the Muslims would kill every last Jew before God returned to judge mankind. He said that even the rocks and trees would cry out to Muslims that a Jew was hiding behind them, come and kill him!

So Islam has one of two choices, Either Muhammad is a liar and Islam is a false religion, or the Jews do not have Israel as a Nation, but they are being gathered for the final slaughter and the Holy Jihad to take over the world for Allah.

Guess which one they chose.

It is absolutely impossible for Islam to have peace with the Jews or the world as a whole. In Islam the religious text state it is either take over the world, slaughtering all the Jews and enslaving the Christians and kill every other non-muslim, or walk away from Islam and never look back.

There is no other choice. This world is now too small for Islam and Civilization


9 posted on 03/21/2005 4:28:07 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz
April: On the 9th, Irgun and Stern Gangs, led by Menahem Begin and Yitzhag Shamir, massacre 245 Palestinians in the village of Deir Yassin, a western suburb of Jerusalem.
Members of Etzel (Irgun Zvai Leumi, the National Military Organization) and the "Stern gang"/Lehi (Lohemei Herut Yisrael, the Freedom Fighters of Israel) attacked an Arab military compound in Deir Yassin, from which Arabs had massacred civilians going to Jerusalem. The civilians killed at Deir Yassin were not targeted but died in a firefight between paramilitary units. Becuase of the presumed house-to-house fighting, the decision was made to warn the population.
Secondly, an unprecedented action took place at Deir Yassin - a loudspeaker was installed on an armored car to inform the population that the road to Ein Karem was open and safe, and that whoever left the village would not be harmed. The strike force was actually prepared to forfeit the surprise element of battle in order to issue these instructions and thus to prevent Arab civilian casualty.
The Arabs do not deny the use of a loudspeaker; indeed, an Arab League publication entitled "Israeli Aggression" states, inter alia:
"On the night of April 9, 1948, the peaceful Arab village of Deir Yassin was surprised by a loudspeaker, which called on the population to evacuate it immediately." http://www.etzel.org.il/english/ac17.htm

Two days later, the Haganah destroy the village of Kalonia, and after driving out the Palestinians, they occupy all Palestinian quarters of west Jerusalem on April 30. David Ben-Gurion, leader of the struggle to establish a Jewish State, orders the Jerusalem Haganah to conquer Arab districts around the city and resettle them with Jews.
1. Would you mind citing your propoganda?
Do you normally use the communist group, Miftah?
2. The Arab armies used these villages as bases to control Jerusalem, after destroying the Jewish communities of Gush Etzion. Moreover, Arabs do live in most of these areas today.

During the Jewish invasion of Palestine, 737,166 Palestinians were forcibly evicted from their homes and land.
During the war, where the Arab states sought to annihilate Israel and turn the Mediterranian incarnadine with Jewish blood, about 700,000 Arabs were asked to leave their rental propertiesw at the behest of the Arab armies.
And 800,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries after 1947. What is your point?

You ara Maronite. Why do you associate with your oppressors (The Muslim Arab invaders from the Hijaz) instead of a fellow people long held in Dhimmitude by them?
Have you merely internalized the opression, or do you blame Israe for the end of the Muslim reconquest of Lebanon?

11 posted on 03/21/2005 6:26:07 PM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz

Stupid Pali propaganda you have posted. You are pro Muslim


12 posted on 03/21/2005 6:32:53 PM PST by dennisw ("What is Man that thou art mindful of him")
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To: 1bigdictator; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2sheep; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; a_witness; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel ping list.

WARNING: This is a high volume ping list

13 posted on 03/21/2005 6:36:51 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz
So why should I believe your facts and not the ones I just looked up?

Because the "facts" that you just "looked up" are only found on pro-terror and communist sites.

14 posted on 03/21/2005 6:42:10 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz
Jews were always the majority in Israel. The Palestinians are muslims from egypt, jordan, and syria. Look at the fact Abbas and Arafat were both born in Egypt!

Their never was a palestinian state so their is no historic palestine.

egypt and jordan still harbor terrorists and allow them to smuggle weapons to terrorists groups that attack Israel. They are no allies and it is a phony peace!

While I dont like people who spy on us either I really dont like people who BLOW US UP!

15 posted on 03/21/2005 6:43:21 PM PST by Evolution
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To: The_wonderful_wizard_of_oz

You are just cutting and pasting Der Yassin trash you got from Pali websites. Israel has a different story to tell about that. And few Palestinians were driven out of Israel in the 1948 war. Most fled. The Arab armies told them to flee and come back after the armies killed the Jews.

Not all Arabs fled. Israel is 20% Arab. Arab nations have driven out all their Jews. About 800,000 of them. Most of these Jews live in Israel today./


18 posted on 03/21/2005 7:06:15 PM PST by dennisw ("What is Man that thou art mindful of him")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/674327/posts


20 posted on 03/21/2005 7:49:12 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (They'll take away my old CRT monitor when they pry it from under my warm, snoozing cat.)
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