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To: Wolfstar


Didn't you listen to Rush today?

Congress controls the courts. Article 4 or 5 I think.



2 posted on 03/21/2005 12:07:46 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Seems it would be easier to save an endangered toad than a human being.


5 posted on 03/21/2005 12:10:14 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Didn't you listen to Rush today?

No. Instead, I consulted the United States Constitution. The relevant sections are posted above on this thread.

11 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:47 PM PST by Wolfstar (If you can lead, do it. If you can't, follow. If you can't do either, become a Democrat.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
US Constitution, Article. III.,Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

I am not entirely sure that the bill explicitly involves Terri Schiavo anyway, but rather applies to all such cases. I don't have the bill text handy, though.

The Schiavo threads on here are getting downright nasty. Just a word of warning. I'll try and get that bill text.

14 posted on 03/21/2005 12:15:23 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: LauraleeBraswell

The bill text from THOMAS (S.686)
S 686 CPS


109th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 686
For the relief of the parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo.


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 20, 2005
Mr. FRIST (for himself, Mr. MARTINEZ, and Mr. SANTORUM) introduced the following bill; which was read twice, considered, read the third time, and passed







AN ACT
For the relief of the parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. RELIEF OF THE PARENTS OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO.

The United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida shall have jurisdiction to hear, determine, and render judgment on a suit or claim by or on behalf of Theresa Marie Schiavo for the alleged violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution or laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 2. PROCEDURE.

Any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo shall have standing to bring a suit under this Act. The suit may be brought against any other person who was a party to State court proceedings relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain the life of Theresa Marie Schiavo, or who may act pursuant to a State court order authorizing or directing the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life. In such a suit, the District Court shall determine de novo any claim of a violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo within the scope of this Act, notwithstanding any prior State court determination and regardless of whether such a claim has previously been raised, considered, or decided in State court proceedings. The District Court shall entertain and determine the suit without any delay or abstention in favor of State court proceedings, and regardless of whether remedies available in the State courts have been exhausted.

SEC. 3. RELIEF.

After a determination of the merits of a suit brought under this Act, the District Court shall issue such declaratory and injunctive relief as may be necessary to protect the rights of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution and laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 4. TIME FOR FILING.

Notwithstanding any other time limitation, any suit or claim under this Act shall be timely if filed within 30 days after the date of enactment of this Act.

SEC. 5. NO CHANGE OF SUBSTANTIVE RIGHTS.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to create substantive rights not otherwise secured by the Constitution and laws of the United States or of the several States.

SEC. 6. NO EFFECT ON ASSISTING SUICIDE.

Nothing in this act shall be construed to confer additional jurisdiction on any court to consider any claim related--

(1) to assisting suicide,

(2) a State law regarding assisting suicide.

SEC. 7. NO PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE LEGISLATION.

Nothing in this Act shall constitute a precedent with respect to future legislation, including the provision of private relief bills.

SEC. 8. NO EFFECT ON THE PATIENT SELF-DETERMINATION ACT OF 1990.

Nothing in this act shall affect the rights of any person under the Patient Self-Determination Act of 1990.

SEC. 9. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS.

It is the Sense of the Congress that the 109th Congress should consider policies regarding the status and legal rights of incapacitated individuals who are incapable of making decisions concerning the provision, withholding, or withdrawal of foods, fluid, or medical care.


23 posted on 03/21/2005 12:20:40 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: LauraleeBraswell

The bill text from THOMAS (S.686)
S 686 CPS


109th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 686
For the relief of the parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo.


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 20, 2005
Mr. FRIST (for himself, Mr. MARTINEZ, and Mr. SANTORUM) introduced the following bill; which was read twice, considered, read the third time, and passed







AN ACT
For the relief of the parents of Theresa Marie Schiavo.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. RELIEF OF THE PARENTS OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO.

The United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida shall have jurisdiction to hear, determine, and render judgment on a suit or claim by or on behalf of Theresa Marie Schiavo for the alleged violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution or laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 2. PROCEDURE.

Any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo shall have standing to bring a suit under this Act. The suit may be brought against any other person who was a party to State court proceedings relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain the life of Theresa Marie Schiavo, or who may act pursuant to a State court order authorizing or directing the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life. In such a suit, the District Court shall determine de novo any claim of a violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo within the scope of this Act, notwithstanding any prior State court determination and regardless of whether such a claim has previously been raised, considered, or decided in State court proceedings. The District Court shall entertain and determine the suit without any delay or abstention in favor of State court proceedings, and regardless of whether remedies available in the State courts have been exhausted.

SEC. 3. RELIEF.

After a determination of the merits of a suit brought under this Act, the District Court shall issue such declaratory and injunctive relief as may be necessary to protect the rights of Theresa Marie Schiavo under the Constitution and laws of the United States relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain her life.

SEC. 4. TIME FOR FILING.

Notwithstanding any other time limitation, any suit or claim under this Act shall be timely if filed within 30 days after the date of enactment of this Act.

SEC. 5. NO CHANGE OF SUBSTANTIVE RIGHTS.

Nothing in this Act shall be construed to create substantive rights not otherwise secured by the Constitution and laws of the United States or of the several States.

SEC. 6. NO EFFECT ON ASSISTING SUICIDE.

Nothing in this act shall be construed to confer additional jurisdiction on any court to consider any claim related--

(1) to assisting suicide,

(2) a State law regarding assisting suicide.

SEC. 7. NO PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE LEGISLATION.

Nothing in this Act shall constitute a precedent with respect to future legislation, including the provision of private relief bills.

SEC. 8. NO EFFECT ON THE PATIENT SELF-DETERMINATION ACT OF 1990.

Nothing in this act shall affect the rights of any person under the Patient Self-Determination Act of 1990.

SEC. 9. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS.

It is the Sense of the Congress that the 109th Congress should consider policies regarding the status and legal rights of incapacitated individuals who are incapable of making decisions concerning the provision, withholding, or withdrawal of foods, fluid, or medical care.


25 posted on 03/21/2005 12:20:44 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Congress controls the courts.

HUH? Congress CONTROLS the courts? Doesn't that violate separation of powers? What happened to three branches of government?

33 posted on 03/21/2005 12:22:51 PM PST by StoneColdGOP ("What does Marsellus Wallace look like?")
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To: LauraleeBraswell
We have illegal left wing radical courts and a reaction to this in Congress and the House. Newtons law sates for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. They may not be able to impeach the judges but they can make new law and do not have to circumvent it.
35 posted on 03/21/2005 12:23:38 PM PST by mountainlyons (alienated vet)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Didn't you listen to Rush today?

I listen to Rush every day, but today Rush was in over his head. His understanding of the constitional issues was poor.

83 posted on 03/21/2005 12:42:54 PM PST by JoeGar
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To: LauraleeBraswell

If what the left says is true about not using the courts to decide her life then the courts should likewise not be used to decide her death nor should they be used in matters such as abortion!!


253 posted on 03/21/2005 1:36:18 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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