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President Bush Signs Schiavo Bill
3/21/05

Posted on 03/20/2005 10:27:51 PM PST by paltz

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To: ChicagoHebrew

Weren't Bills of Attainder in effect bills that convicted an individual of an offense, incarcerated them, penalized them, etc?

This is not that type of bill. Lots of private bills exist. This is something between that and a regular bill. Heck, time was of the essence - cut them some slack....


61 posted on 03/20/2005 10:45:31 PM PST by Al Simmons (4-time 'W' voter, 1994-2004.)
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To: Zivasmate

"George W. Bush - President for Life!"

I like and respect President Bush but no way, no how and no body will ever be President for Life!


62 posted on 03/20/2005 10:45:43 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: ndt

It is about beating back the culture of death. Terri is a symbol.


63 posted on 03/20/2005 10:45:49 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Zivasmate
George W. Bush - President for Life!

Nice play on words!
64 posted on 03/20/2005 10:46:20 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History remembers only what was, not what might have been.)
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To: reagandemocrat

Yaaaahooooo!


65 posted on 03/20/2005 10:46:53 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather
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To: ndt
Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea of a law written for one person?

If you want to feel uncomfortable, push yourself away from food and water for 7 days. Then perhaps someone will join you in your discomfort. Life trumps discomfort.

66 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:05 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Honestfreedom

The temporary reinsertion of the feeding tube is a given now under the circumstances. They'll wake up some judge and the judge will allow the tube. It's just a matter of time, and hopefully not too much time! The impending investigation will be veeeeeery interesting!


67 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:19 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Um, why isn't this an unconstitutional Bill of Attainder?

I was wondering about that myself.

I'm a bit worried about this, but only because Michael Schiavo could - h-ll, will! - use this to challenge the law's validity, assuming that he has standing. OTOH, this could work out in the long run - Terri's life is saved, she gets the care and therapy and she needs, and she finally gets the tests that will determine how she ended up in he current state. If the law is overturned, well, I have a feeling that by Michael Schiavo will no longer be eligible to be her guardian due to his fleeing the country or indictment, and no precedent is set that the Demonrats can use help the guilty.

68 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:22 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (They'll take away my old CRT monitor when they pry it from under my warm, snoozing cat.)
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To: notaliberal

Here's my letter:

Dear Mr. President:

I just learned that you signed a bill into law that serves to protect a disabled woman by the name of Terri Schiavo.

Good work on short notice.

(name and address)


69 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:29 PM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Cyclopean Squid

Thank you.At least somebody got it.


70 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:36 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: ndt
One House speaker tonight said it well.

"We are all potential Terri Schiavos"

71 posted on 03/20/2005 10:47:43 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Cyclopean Squid
George W. Bush - President for Life!
Nice play on words!


Let me extemporize: Bill Clinton: Life for the President!
72 posted on 03/20/2005 10:48:08 PM PST by Borges
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To: ndt

Good point. I thought your concern may have been precedence. I consider this a good precedent--though not likely to happen again in that it mobilizes the Congress of the US so rapidly.


73 posted on 03/20/2005 10:48:09 PM PST by lp boonie (Been there, done that.)
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To: Borges
It strips him of his 'right' as Terri's guardian.

Yes, it does deprive Michael of his "property", but per the 13th Amendment, he never really had the title he claimed.

74 posted on 03/20/2005 10:48:21 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: ChicagoHebrew

I believe that one of the reporters said that this sort of ruling is used once or twice a year to affect immigration cases.

The court would not "sentence" Terri to death. I would decide that Judge Greer was right and Micael Schiavo is her guardian and entitled to exercise substituted judgement.


75 posted on 03/20/2005 10:48:37 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
It's a law that applies to one person, and one person only -- and could result in a federal court sentencing her to death. Sorry, but that's unconstitutional.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Stop making stuff up.

76 posted on 03/20/2005 10:48:52 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossary/legal/attainder.htm
Not meaning to argue, just clearing up a definition. I will not express my opinion on this subject because I am tired of arguing with people.
77 posted on 03/20/2005 10:49:10 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Borges
It's a Bill of Attainder against Michael Shiavo in a way sin't it? It strips him of his 'right' as Terri's guardian

No. Neither is it an ex post facto law, although I'm sure someone will be trying to make that claim as well.

Courts act to strip people of their rights as guardians or parents every day.

79 posted on 03/20/2005 10:49:52 PM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: WhoNeedsTickets

Are you flaglady47 under another handle?


80 posted on 03/20/2005 10:50:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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