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President Bush Signs Schiavo Bill
3/21/05

Posted on 03/20/2005 10:27:51 PM PST by paltz

As Per Fox News


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; billsigning; bush43; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrislaw
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To: JCEccles
And howl they will.
Uno Ab Alto
261 posted on 03/20/2005 11:32:36 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Prince Charles

They're ticked off. They have to sign up and vent.

Our Mods are second to none at sniffing out a troll.


262 posted on 03/20/2005 11:33:04 PM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: flaglady47
And they don't have to accept it. And they won't.

Congress has acted by its constitutional authority to determine federal lower court jurisdiction. Yes. The judicial clowns have a constitutional duty to accept the case. If they refuse to do so, Congress can (and will) impeach and remove the judges involved.

263 posted on 03/20/2005 11:33:33 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: MarMema

Ha! I never got a chance to drink that small bottle of champagne I was saving for NYE. Now that I'm on high blood pressure meds, can't drink it. Hmmm. I think I'll have some cookies & milk to celebrate. :o)


264 posted on 03/20/2005 11:33:44 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Freepertoo to Terri's Dad: "I told him God rarely telegraphs his punches....")
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To: M. Thatcher

Thank you for posting the actual wording of the suit. What a weekend roller coaster ride!


265 posted on 03/20/2005 11:34:05 PM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: Zivasmate
"For the slower witted "President for Life" is a double entendre."

I tried explaining it twice. I don't think they're getting it. Oh well.

266 posted on 03/20/2005 11:34:15 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pelosi fined $21,000 for collecting/distributing funds in excess of campaign-finance laws)
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To: rwfromkansas

So the Fla. legislature could not come up with ANY bill or law that would take care of these situations? I have a feeling there was not much desire on their part to get anything passed.


267 posted on 03/20/2005 11:34:23 PM PST by whadizit (A)
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To: ndt
Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea of a law written for one person?

I'm very uncomfortable with that idea. However, my discomfort at such a law is tiny compared with my discomfort at the idea that those helpless to speak for themselves can be murdered legally in this country. That's a practice suited to totalitarian regimes and savage barbarian societies.

268 posted on 03/20/2005 11:34:27 PM PST by thoughtomator (Death to Terri! Death to Israel! Death to the Great Satan!)
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To: thoughtomator

"It's frightening how eager some people are for this woman to die."

Tell me about it.. I've been thoroughly disgusted by the level of bloodlust around here lately..


269 posted on 03/20/2005 11:34:49 PM PST by Awestruck (It's About LIFE, Stupid.)
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To: jackibutterfly

"Can the FL court strike it down again as unconstitutional??"

They can try, of course, but they won't or there will be outcries and perhaps even violence in the streets. This is an historical bill to reclaim our Christian country and stop the unabated (up to tonight) march by the anti-Christian forces of death. I believe we are at a crossroad tonight.


270 posted on 03/20/2005 11:35:04 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: FreedomCalls
If you denied food and water to an infant would that be considered "pulling the plug" or would that be considered murder?

If a mother did it, she'd get a Lifetime Channel movie of the week, a book deal, and better than even odds of being found not guilty by reason of insanity.

271 posted on 03/20/2005 11:35:43 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Zivasmate
For the slower witted "President for Life" is a double entendre.

Did you mean "oxymoron"?

Pssst, here's a clue: it's neither.

272 posted on 03/20/2005 11:36:13 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Awestruck

I'm shocked at how an otherwise near-uniformly pro-life forum has managed to find so much support for the idea of legalized murder, especially when the circumstances in which she sustained her injuries are anything but clear.


273 posted on 03/20/2005 11:36:24 PM PST by thoughtomator (Death to Terri! Death to Israel! Death to the Great Satan!)
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To: thoughtomator

I'm with you. Even if you're a right-to-die supporter...this is something else entirely.


274 posted on 03/20/2005 11:37:19 PM PST by Borges
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To: Aliska

Is the talmud the Jewish sacred book?


276 posted on 03/20/2005 11:37:43 PM PST by mjtobias (Michael et al. aren't trying to starve Terri because she's dying, but because she isn't. - supercat)
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To: BackInBlack
Who knows -- maybe Schiavo really told her husband to pull the plug in such a circumstance. But she does not have the right to take her own life after an accident any more than before an accident......

I totally agree. This is where the culture of death has gotten a big foothold. I have worked with the very disabled and often they have a good quality of life. It usually depends on if they are loved. A person when healthy may think that they would not want to live after an accident but they do not realize how much the desire to live can take over. What one says when one is totally healthy may not apply because that person has no idea how they might feel if actually in a condition such as Terri's or similar. Also, many people may be very depressed at the time of an accident or impairment but through counseling and therapy learn to live with their impairment and come to love life again. After an accident or impairment a person may be at a very fragile time in their life when they need lots of love and support not an easy way out. Also with medical miracles at the brink of coming fast and furiously we do not know all the hope the future may bring. Also, we do not know when our LORD will do a miracle of healing. It comes down to whether we value and love life and believe in the sanctity of life. The alternative is the seemingly easy fix of suicide and murder which actually would actually cause great harm and degradation for individuals and our society at large.

277 posted on 03/20/2005 11:38:05 PM PST by Bellflower (A new day is Coming!)
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To: ndt
"Am I the only one uncomfortable with the idea of a law written for one person?"

No, you're not the only one.
278 posted on 03/20/2005 11:38:50 PM PST by familyop (Essayons!)
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To: FreedomCalls

During the last weeks of his life, my dear grandfather was on a feeding tube and was not "there" mentally, pretty much incapacitated. But he could breathe on his own, etc. While we would not take "extraordinary measures" to keep him alive, it never would have *occurred* to us not to feed him just because he wasn't "with it" or not "there" mentally.

What's scary about this case is that it could start a snowball down a slippery slope...for instance could insurance companies pressure hospitals, etc., to deny food? It's a short step from Terri's case to someone like my grandfather also being tortured to death by starvation, instead of treated lovingly and with respect, cared for and made comfortable to the greatest extent possible in his final days.


279 posted on 03/20/2005 11:39:18 PM PST by GOPrincess
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To: peyton randolph

One would think that as deft as the Bush Administration usually is, the Bush team knows which judges are in the pool to get this case and knows how they will act on it. Otherwise, this vote tonight would just be setting up all of Terri's supporters for a possible heartbreaking reversal of fortune. I don't think the Bush team is clumsy enough to do that.


280 posted on 03/20/2005 11:39:34 PM PST by defenderSD (At half past midnight, the ghost of Vince Foster wanders through the West Wing.)
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