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President Bush Signs Schiavo Bill
3/21/05

Posted on 03/20/2005 10:27:51 PM PST by paltz

As Per Fox News


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; billsigning; bush43; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; terrislaw
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To: Zivasmate
There are times when principles that apply every day must be set aside for higher principles.

As defined by whom? What limits apply - any at all? According to Big Government boosters blowing their horns today, Congress and the President may do anything they please, if they like the result of course.

And Castro is President for Life. So is Kim Jong Il. You're advocating something similar for us?

241 posted on 03/20/2005 11:27:21 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: whadizit

"Perhaps he is the best she can do. Even Scott Peterson is getting marriage proposals!!"

I think she'd be better of going for Scott, at least he can't get out!


242 posted on 03/20/2005 11:27:37 PM PST by Awestruck (It's About LIFE, Stupid.)
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To: Fudd Fan

Well he is the one pushing this issue legally trying to have her put to death. He is the impediment in all this.


243 posted on 03/20/2005 11:27:41 PM PST by Borges
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To: ClintonBeGone

Further, the Congress isn't interfering with my life or pocket book while they attend to this matter. Better this than worrying about steroid ball.


244 posted on 03/20/2005 11:28:16 PM PST by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: GloriaJane

It was a Tongue-in-cheek post. I thought I made that clear in my ending with "(sarcasm off)."


245 posted on 03/20/2005 11:28:16 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: ClintonBeGone

"That was the whole point behind tonight's legislation - TO GIVE THEM THAT RIGHT TO SUE IN FEDERAL COURT."

Yes, but they (the federal courts) are going to refuse that right. They don't want a right imposed upon them by the legislature. And they don't have to accept it. And they won't.


246 posted on 03/20/2005 11:28:18 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: mjtobias

On we go now to our next battle - the federal judge.

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The next battle indeed... but just think... if Terri was under Islamic law she would already have been dead for 15 years... taken out and buried up to her belly button in a vertical hole... then stoned to death for embarrassing her husband !!! ;-))

Yikes... I Slam Islam !!!



247 posted on 03/20/2005 11:29:06 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Thanks. I'll be sure to give your posts equal regard.

I would certainly invite you to do so . . . provided you can demonstrate the cognizant ability to make such distinctions. :)

248 posted on 03/20/2005 11:29:14 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Yeah. And...?

Do you still not get the pun?

President FOR Life. As in PRO life. As in SUPPORTING life.

How much simpler can one make it?

Lighten up.

249 posted on 03/20/2005 11:29:40 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pelosi fined $21,000 for collecting/distributing funds in excess of campaign-finance laws)
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To: paltz
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050321/D88V6PR00.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush signed emergency

legislation sent to him by Congress early Monday to allow Terri Schiavo's parents ask a federal judge to prolong their daughter's life, capping days of emotional debate over who should decide life and death.

"In cases like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life," Bush said in a statement after signing the bill.

After flying back to Washington from his Texas ranch, Bush had waited at the White House to sign the measure permitting a federal review of the case, which could trigger the reinsertion of feeding tubes needed to keep the brain-damaged Florida woman alive.

The House passed the bill on a 203-58 vote after calling lawmakers back for an emergency Sunday session for debate that stretched past midnight.

The measured was backed by 156 Republicans to 5 who voted against it and 71 who did not vote; 47 Democrats voted in favor, 53 against and 102 did not vote. The lone independent in the 435 member house did not vote.

The Senate approved the bill Sunday by voice vote.

Republican supporters said the "Palm Sunday Compromise" seeks to protect the constitutional rights of a disabled person and rejected suggestions that political motives lay behind the last-minute maneuver.

"When a person's intentions regarding whether to receive lifesaving treatment are unclear, the responsibility of a compassionate nation is to affirm that person's right to life," said House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis. "In our deeds and public actions, we must build a culture of life that welcomes and defends all human life."

Many Democrats who opposed the bill said the congressional vote placed lawmakers in the middle of issues best left to state courts and family members.

"Today, congressional leaders are trying to appoint Congress as a judge and jury," said Rep. Jim Davis, D-Fla. "If we do not draw the line in the sand today, there is no limit to what democratic principles this Congress will ignore or what liberties they may trample on next."

250 posted on 03/20/2005 11:29:54 PM PST by paltz
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To: flaglady47

"Yes, but they (the federal courts) are going to refuse that right. They don't want a right imposed upon them by the legislature. And they don't have to accept it. And they won't. "


You know this how? WHO gives 'rights', wow lady and you worry about protecting your system.


251 posted on 03/20/2005 11:30:05 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: beandog

Just browsing.

I'm fine, thanks.


252 posted on 03/20/2005 11:30:33 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: flaglady47

That is what I am afraid of...seems too many judges have their pants in a wad these days. Hopefully, there are one or two who understand the situation and can be reasonable.


253 posted on 03/20/2005 11:30:52 PM PST by whadizit (an)
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To: flaglady47
Yes, but they (the federal courts) are going to refuse that right. They don't want a right imposed upon them by the legislature. And they don't have to accept it. And they won't.

That's what I'm thinking, too. But we're not supposed to be allowed to think things like that. It's doubleplusungood.

254 posted on 03/20/2005 11:30:54 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Dixielander

I have glanced over this thread, so I don't know if it was brought up or not, but all they have to do is give her an IV in the arm to give her fluids. She could last for a month without food, but loosing her electrolytes can further damage her more than now. A feeding tube could take a couple of hours after she gets to an ER and after all the foot draging they could do to try and make it last till tommorrow or Tuesday. An IV with glucose takes 5 minutes at the hospice if someone would just authorize it.


255 posted on 03/20/2005 11:31:02 PM PST by chuckles
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Yes....nicely done.


256 posted on 03/20/2005 11:31:14 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: flaglady47
Yes, but they (the federal courts) are going to refuse that right. They don't want a right imposed upon them by the legislature. And they don't have to accept it. And they won't.

Why are you so sure about that? Unless you know the actual federal judge involved and have received that specific information from him or her, you cannot make that statement with any confidence.

257 posted on 03/20/2005 11:31:21 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: BackInBlack
But Terri doesn't have a plug to pull. She is NOT on life support. She breathes on her on. Her heart functions on her on. She simply receives food and water via feeding tube as do a lot of people. She's much like an infant in that she can't feed herself but otherwise functions independently. If you denied food and water to an infant would that be considered "pulling the plug" or would that be considered murder?
258 posted on 03/20/2005 11:31:30 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Hank Rearden

For the slower witted "President for Life" is a double entendre.

And indeed even the most cherished conservative or libertarian principles sometimes have to superseded by the higher principle of maintaining an innocent, helpless human life.


259 posted on 03/20/2005 11:31:49 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: flaglady47
Yes, but they (the federal courts) are going to refuse that right. They don't want a right imposed upon them by the legislature. And they don't have to accept it. And they won't.

Don't be silly. They may not rule the way we want, but they can't deny someone standing if they've met the statutory requirements provided by congress.

260 posted on 03/20/2005 11:32:28 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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