Terri Schiavo's family have been denied all visitation per Terri's sister

[kcvl]

Per Fox News...

[xsmommy]

it does not constitute an endorsement of his testimony as credible. all it is is the appellate court saying that the trial judge did not err in finding him credible, even though had the appellate court weighed the evidence, they might have found differently. it is all about weighing the evidence and not abusing discretion. they found he did not abuse his discretion in finding him credible. reasonable minds could find differently.

[Mo1]

Yes that does happen .. I won't disagree with that

Anyone can be a real pain in the rear if they one to be

But in majority of cases regarding a Will .. the intentions of the persons Will are honored

[Howlin]

Mo, I must have done a hundred cases about will fights.

[Miss Behave]

FIRST do no harm. Made in USA wrote this on another thread and I couldn't agree more:

"It is time for a criminal investigation of the husband. The victim should be taken from the hospital and placed in a safe home while the investigation is going on. Of course the safe home would have all the necessary equipment to sustain her. Gov. Jeb Bush should work with congress to indict all who have obstructed the subpoena and have them jailed in contempt."

And JennysCool's post #619 on the thread below SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING. WHAT AN AWESOME POST.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1366225/posts?q=1&&page=601

[RS]

"In late 1991, 1½ years after Terri’s collapse...."

Or about one year after all traditional treatments were exhausted and she was even given an experimental brain implant.

[Mo1]

I don't deny there are cases of Will fights

[windchime]

"Or you trying to make something sinister out of that, too?"

Lawyers come out of the woodwork. As far as I know, he was the first.....I don't know who (forgot the name), what, why, when or how he was there. Was it the initiation of the move to sue doctors? Did Michael call him in? The parents? Both?

[Howlin]

Good grief; if everybody who gets advice from a lawyer is put under your kind of scrutiny, we'd all be suspect.

[shhrubbery!]

I'll go on the record here and say that if she can eat, I will go down there and fight for her myself. But we know that's not the case.

No, "we" don't know that.

What we do know is that Michael Schiavo has refused to allow attempts to feed Terri by mouth.

And, we know there was an order by Judge Greer that "nobody is to feed that girl" -- not even ice chips to alleviate the terrible tongue swelling that occurs as a result of dehydration.

But we DO know that Terri can successfully swallow some foods. There is a sworn affidavit by one of Terri's nurses that she fed Terri juice and jello, against Michael's orders. No problem for Terri to swallow those things. And, according to the nurse, she could tell Terri "enjoyed the pleasant taste."

I have experience with people who have had brain damage. Sometimes they need to re-learn to eat. It can often be done with therapy.

Michael Schiavo refuses to allow Terri to have any therapy.

Here is Sarah Scantlin. Sarah just "woke up" this year after twenty years in a "vegetative state."

Sarah has to be fed via tube because her "neck muscles are so constricted she cannot swallow to eat."

However, with physical therapy Sarah may regain the ability to swallow.

Now tell us, Hildy: What is that expression on Sarah's face, as she gazes at her mother? Is that the look of someone who wishes she were dead?

And tell us too, Hildy: Should Sarah's feeding tube be removed? After all, according to Hildy's Law, if you can't swallow, you shouldn't be allowed to live.

[Peach]

It was my understanding that the court gave the majority of that $$ to Terri and has had complete accounting of the $$.

In fact, they are talking about that right now on C-Span in the US House. This very second.

[ContraryMary]

So the judge ruled reasonably in finding that Michael's testimony was credible. Good.

[Howlin]

Wow, sounds like the GOP got their talking points right off FR, inaccuracies and all.

[xsmommy]

the reviewing court found that he didn't abuse his discretion. now of course, if there is a de novo review, a different judge could reasonably find his testimony not credible.

[windchime]

"Sure, fine, we'll just have a committee meeting to figure out what to do with her... "

Maybe that's why it went down like it did.

Husbands and wives disagree on treatment for a minor child sometimes. Been there....

[Mo1]

It was my understanding that the court gave the majority of that $$ to Terri and has had complete accounting of the $$.

Yes .. It's my understand that this settlement money was placed in a trust account and take a guess who is the guardian of that money?

I'm not sure there has been a "complete" accounting of what that money was spent on

[ariamne]

Sounds like he was trying to finish the job.

[BigSkyFreeper]

I wouldn't be surprised of Terri becomes a political pawn for 2006.

[Cboldt]

it is all about weighing the evidence and not abusing discretion. they found he did not abuse his discretion in finding him credible. reasonable minds could find differently.

I'm not sure that question was even before the SCOTUS, i.e., whether Greer abused discretion. Anyway, it matters not what the question was, the SCOTUS did what amounts to "neener neener neener," in refusing to hear the case. It is not possible to infer ANYTHING from the refusal.

Hence, some will hang their hat on the inaction, and claim it to be a rousing endorsement of their position. Let 'em. Their logic is flawed, and discussion won't fix the flaw.

[ContraryMary]

Didn't you say that it was the jurisdiction of appellate courts to review, but not to make judgements on the credibility of evidence?

[Peach]

I think Howlin knows, or Hildy. I've seen the accounting.

BTW, (this isn't for you but others who doubted this)...the Congresswoman who is up right now says that decisions like this are made thousands of times a day in hospitals all across America. It just happened to her.

It's Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz ... I see her name now.