Posted on 03/20/2005 12:29:52 PM PST by kcvl
Per Fox News...
Oh, I never said Living Wills will be done away with, they'll just be targets of dispute and challenge by anyone and everyone. Congress opened up a whole new can of worms.
I'm sorry, that's wrong. She obviously can swallow her own saliva and other secretions. It's more efficient to have her tube fed than to have someone spoon feed her and there is less risk of aspiration pneumonia.
But, for some reason, Michael Schiavo has prohibited anyone from even offering sips of water or ice chips. For a while, he even forbade oral care.
Well, I realize we're bantering back and forth here theoretically!
Actually I believe what was sent to them was a question about reinserting the tube while Congress pondered; now I have NO idea what was sent with it.
But I do know that Kennedy was on "duty" this weekend and that he thought it was so important that he faxed it to all of them and that they were unanimous in their decision not to allow it back in.
Info:
TOOBIN: Well, so far the state courts have prevailed. The Florida Supreme Court issued a ruling supporting the decision to remove the feeding tube. That was appealed to the United States Supreme Court, which, of course, is supreme over both state and federal courts. And the United States Supreme Court declined to hear it.
that does not mean the reviewing courts would also find his testimony credible. it merely means that there was no error in the case permitting them to overturn the decision. they could very easily have found to the contrary. you should not find the appellate decisions to be endorsing the credibility of his testimony. they are not permitted to re-find facts.
Yeah, yeah; heard it.
The Congress also stated that this case is thrown into the Federal Court system, it never said they have to, nor that they should, it just said that the Federal Court gets to decide this case if it so chooses. As I stated earlier, there is a 50/50 chance the Federal Court will fold it's arms, shake it's head and say "nuh-uh".
# 66 If they succeed, they will hasten her death.
Let's see. They have removed the feeding tube. She's going to die, and it will be a prolonged, excruciating death. In an otherwise healthy individual (brain damage has not affected her other physical functions) dehydration and starvation is painful. When they talk about it's being a peaceulf way to go, they are referring to a person who is sick and about to die anyway. The effects on the body are grotesque. Trying to feed her would be a mercy if it hastened her death.
The poor soul. Surrounded by killers bent upon her murder.
" The fact is, there has never been an attempt to see whether or not she can swallow soft foods. Just another part of the deception."
Have you got any links to the testing that was done before she was given the experimental implant in 1990 showing this ?
No, it has educated us, and warned us. That is good. Better to litigate over the written word, then some oral testimony BS.
i am, and you are correct. marajade is mistaken. failure to overturn a decision does not mean that the reviewing court would have weighed the evidence in the same way at all.
decision was upheld, does not mean his testimony was necessarily found credible by anyone. it merely means there was not a reversible error in the decision under review.
Hardly a ringing endorsement of the facts as found in the case.
It is a common, but dishonest tactic, to spin judicial inaction as favorable action.
This guy obviously does not have his wife's best interests at heart. Why is it so difficult to transfer guardianship over to the parents? Also, I hear this guy has already gotten on with his life and has another woman in his life. Who is this woman? I don't understand why any woman would be attracted to a man who is so fervently battling to starve and dehydrate his wife to death.
Kooks and weirdos hang out there. It's a free-form, unmoderated discussion area. Google Groups or Usenet as it's more commonly called is not for the faint of heart nor for the sane individual. It's like one giant rumor mill in some groups. I belong to a few Ham Radio/Amateur Radio groups, but I stay away from the kooky conspiracy groups.
It means that a judge somewhere found him credible enough for the USSC not to reverse it.
Peach .. when you try to sell a home .. do you clean it up and take good care of it .. or do you ignore the mess and let it become a pig pen
This was an insurance case to get money to pay for her medical expenses and rehabilitation
I have no doubt he was a loving and attentive husband back then
And I would not fault him or anyone else for doing that
But if he used that money for her and her rehabilitation .. I might think differently of MS
Obviously there are some stupid people out there that need to be told what to do. Congress only told me something I figured out on my own.
the original factfinder, Greer, found him credible. appeals do not reweigh the evidence, ever.
I don't believe the Senate action will affect anyone but Terri, and the Florida law specifically exempts those with living wills.
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