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Upstart Virginia team beats Oxford in debate
The Home School Court Report | January/February 2005 | Sarah Hoffman and Gary Emerling

Posted on 03/19/2005 8:35:21 PM PST by This Just In

England's Oxford University is widely known for producing some of the world's best debaters, such as British Prime Ministers Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.

But last weekend, the school's moot court team was defeated by two former home-schoolers from a small Virginia college named after American Revolution patriot and orator Patrick Henry.

Matt du Mee, 22, and Rayel Papke, 21, who attend Patrick Henry College, pulled off a victory against their British competitors in the first moot court tournament between one of the world's most renowned universities and the 4-year-old Christian college in Purcellville.

Andrew Graham, master of Balliol College at Oxford, said Thursday the United States victory did not surprise him because the students were well prepared.

"It was a fine judgment and a difficult situation," said Mr. Graham in a telephone interview from his office in England. "There were extraordinarily impressive performances. Both teams were very polished, very professional and very well prepared."

The fierce three-day competition held on Oxford's campus judged the students on a set of criteria, including debating skills, presentation and courtroom demeanor. Eight students competed in the event, four of them from Patrick Henry.

The students, who competed in four two-member teams, had to argue a fictitious breach-of-contract case involving millionaire Foghorn Leghorn who sued scultor Melvin Muttley over a disputed purple boll weevil statue.

The students had to argue the case before Thomas Henry Bingham of Cornhill, the senior law lord of the United Kingdom, whose position is equivalent to that of the U.S. Supreme Court chief justice. Brian Hutton, who serves as a lord of appeal, also judged the event. The men are distinguished alumni of Balliol, one of the most prestigious law schools in England.

Mr. du Mee, of Peoria, Ariz., and Miss Papke, of Queen Creek, Ariz., had a month to prepare their arguments and learn the intricacies of British contract law, a set of judicial fiats about which neither student knew much.

"We didn't really have any parallels or anything we could work off of," Mr. du Mee said. "We just had to buckle down and learn the material."

The students also had to adjust to the British form of moot court competition, which meant they had to learn new forms of legal address. The Patrick Henry students addressed their British competitors as "my learned friend opposite" and the judges as "my Lord," instead of "your Honor."

The last day of competition stretched into the evening hours, which forced the students to argue their case by candlelight since the competition took place in Balliol Hall, one of the oldest on campus.

Mr. du Mee said his team was the underdog going into the competition, but the tide began to turn during the last round. "It was really exhilarating because by the time we got to our last speech," he said, "I felt like we really had a good chance of winning."

Michael Farris, President of Patrick Henry College and coach of its moot court teams, said he was thrilled with his students' victory. "It was exciting," he said, "Having watched a lot of rounds of moot court, I was pretty sure they won, but I'm obviously biased. To hear these two members of the highest court of Britain declare them the winners...was very encouraging."

Patrick Henry students David J. Shaw, 21, of Arlington Heights, Ill., and Kyle Pousson, 21, of Purcellville, also competed in the tournament. They were eliminated in preliminary rounds, but assisted Mr. du Mee and Miss Papke in researching for the final round.

Patrick Henry College is a liberal arts school with a student population of 277. It was founded in the fall of 2000 as a separate, tax-free institution by the Purcellville-based Home School Legal Defense Association, a nonprofit national membership organization of families who home-school their children. The college graduated 40 students last May.

Since its opening, the school has experienced significant academic success and boasts student SAT and ACT scores comparable to the nation's elite colleges. Many Patrick Henry students are required to work in an apprenticeship or internship, depending on their majors. Seven of the nearly 100 interns who worked at the White House last spring attended Patrick Henry.

Almost all of the students come from home-schooling backgrounds. The college's namesake is a famous Virginian who also was a product of home schooling.

The U.S. students' courtroom performance impressed their British counterparts. After the competition, the teams were treated to dinner by the Younger Society, a prestigious law group of past and present Balliol College students.

"They were good," Mr. Graham said. "If I would've been in my mid-20's and had to appear in front of Supreme Court judges and be cross-examined by them, I imagine it would've been terrifying."

The Oxford teams will visit the United States next spring for a rematch. The teams will argue another case based on U.S. law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: christianschools; highereducation; hslda; patrickhenrycollege; phc
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Made In America
1 posted on 03/19/2005 8:35:25 PM PST by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Home Schooler mega-bump!!


2 posted on 03/19/2005 8:38:54 PM PST by keithtoo (Kennedy - he's of Irish extraction, but under the influence of Scotch most of the time.)
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Made In America

Home-educated in America.

3 posted on 03/19/2005 8:40:52 PM PST by Law ("For the wisdom of this world is folly with God..." 1 Cor 3:19)
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To: This Just In
American Parliamentary Debate Association chant, sung to "My Darling Clementine":

I'm a bastard, I'm a bastard, I'm a BAAASSTARD yes I am...

But I'd rather be a bastard than an Oxford Union man...

4 posted on 03/19/2005 8:41:01 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: This Just In
Congratulations!

To take on an Oxford Union debating team and win is no small potatoes.

5 posted on 03/19/2005 8:44:51 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: This Just In
"The students, who competed in four two-member teams, had to argue a fictitious breach-of-contract case involving millionaire Foghorn Leghorn who sued scultor Melvin Muttley over a disputed purple boll weevil statue.

The only statue in the world honoring and insect is (ironically) a Boll Weevil Statue in Enterprise, Alabama.


6 posted on 03/19/2005 8:48:24 PM PST by blam
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To: This Just In
the 4-year-old Christian college in Purcellville.

I used to live there (as a child). It is a very small town, probably < 1,000 people.

7 posted on 03/19/2005 8:52:39 PM PST by Light Your World (Choose life!)
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Matt du Mee, 22, and Rayel Papke, 21, who attend Patrick Henry College, pulled off a victory against their British competitors in the first moot court tournament between one of the world's most renowned universities and the 4-year-old Christian college in Purcellville.

If only Ayn Rand was still alive :-)

8 posted on 03/19/2005 8:55:30 PM PST by Tribune7
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Extraordinary. Something the New York Times will ignore, because it contradicts all their most cherished assumptions: that homeschoolers are ignorant, that Christians are stupid, that most southerners are rednecks, etc., etc.

Instead, the Times will continue to call bill clinton a genius for getting sent to Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar, where he did no work and dropped out either because he was failed or because he raped a fellow student.

Congratulations to the Brits for recognizing the excellence of these students with their no doubt odd sounding accents.


9 posted on 03/19/2005 9:11:25 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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This is quite an extraordinary accomplishment, which is precisely why I felt you'd appreciate this story. You wouldn't have read about this on any biased major news outlit.


10 posted on 03/19/2005 9:21:55 PM PST by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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This is fabulous news.

Homeschoolers keep showing the way for others to escape the indoctronation centers called government schools.


11 posted on 03/19/2005 9:25:31 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delenda est publius schola)
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To: This Just In

Damn, I had Oxford in the Final Four in my bracket.


12 posted on 03/19/2005 9:26:34 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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Purcellville...
I used to live there (as a child). It is a very small town, probably < 1,000 people.

I'm sorry to tell you that this is no longer the case. The townhouses are proliferating like rabbits, apparently breeding in the darkness, for every morning brings more of them. Route 7 is now a traffic nightmare at rush hour. McMansions with three- and four-car garages are popping up overnight as well. "Purcyville" is about to be part of the 50,000-house building craze the Virginia Supreme Court recently approved for western Loudoun. It's sad that the majestic sweep of the Blue Ridge will soon be covered with piles of vinyl siding.

13 posted on 03/19/2005 10:02:52 PM PST by Capriole (I don't have any problems that couldn't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition)
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To: dfwgator

LOL! My nephew goes to Oxford, Jesus College, to be exact, and is on Oxford's Frisby throwing team! What a bunch of wusses!


14 posted on 03/19/2005 10:08:41 PM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: This Just In

Didn't this happen back in November?


16 posted on 03/20/2005 12:33:58 AM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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To: This Just In

This is certainly not just in since it happened many months ago and was posted on FR. You hurt your credibility without dates. The story would stand up just fine with them. Plus, when is the match here in the US? It was supposed to happen after the Oxford match using US law.


17 posted on 03/20/2005 3:34:48 AM PST by KeyWest
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To: Capriole

Well, can't these development problems "be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition"?


18 posted on 03/20/2005 6:21:13 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: Peevish Prophet
If life were a sport, debate is the Decathalon. We'll be hearing from all of these folks in the future.

And they're on our side!!

19 posted on 03/20/2005 6:34:40 AM PST by keithtoo (Kennedy - he's of Irish extraction, but under the influence of Scotch most of the time.)
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To: This Just In

This can't be right.. there is no way an amatuer parent could develop a child's mind anywhere near what one of the highly trained professionals in the American Teacher's Federation can.


20 posted on 03/20/2005 6:36:09 AM PST by ran15
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