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Canadians face LONG waits for health care
Associated Press ^ | 03/19/05 | Beth Duff-Brown

Posted on 03/19/2005 7:14:19 PM PST by Heartofsong83

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Scary, scary stuff!

The US system is definitely not perfect, although seems to work better for the majority of the population. Private insurers and delivery should be an option, although I do believe that all working people, as well as disabled and seniors, should be guaranteed to at least basic, essential health care, funded privately or publicly.

1 posted on 03/19/2005 7:14:19 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83

Beth Brown better start polishing up her resume. She has attacked the holy grail of the liberal left, and they will not forgive her for this sacriligeous column.


2 posted on 03/19/2005 7:15:49 PM PST by nwrep
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To: Heartofsong83

I hope Hillary and co. are reading this as well.


3 posted on 03/19/2005 7:16:37 PM PST by Nachum ( "Let everyone get a move on and take some hilltops! Whatever we take, will be ours- Ariel Sharon)
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To: nwrep

Are you trying to say it in a positive or negative way?


4 posted on 03/19/2005 7:17:22 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Nachum

Yeah for sure; your system has serious flaws too but copying the existing Canadian system will make things worse.


5 posted on 03/19/2005 7:17:56 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83

Even with such evidence they'll continue to hold up Canada and Cuba as such ideals of universal health care.


6 posted on 03/19/2005 7:21:14 PM PST by Maigret
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To: Heartofsong83

Totally positive (for our side). I cannot imagine seeing this column in an AP forum. This is more suited to the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. She has committed a career ending move. This is too much truth for liberals to bear.


7 posted on 03/19/2005 7:21:17 PM PST by nwrep
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To: Heartofsong83

Familiar stuff and thanks for posting the warnings of socialized medicine.

Hordes of Canadians living near or far to the border with the US come to the states for treatment foregoing long often fatal waits. Even though they've been scammed for years by their govts, they are willing to fork over even more to get treatment in the US...or indeed anywhere.

A friend in pain in Toronto was told that his condition (gallstones) was low in priority and he would have to wait...in severe pain. He finally bit the bullet and came down to NYS and got relief in a week.


8 posted on 03/19/2005 7:21:43 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Heartofsong83
The average Canadian family pays about 48 percent of its income in taxes each year, partly to fund the health care system

When taxes reached 30% in france (circa 1794), the royals lost their heads. Too bad the Canucks are such sheeple! Accepting the warm security of perpetual govt. care, but given a stone blanket.

9 posted on 03/19/2005 7:22:57 PM PST by plangent
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I would think it works for preventive checkups and routine services. It breaks down completely if you need urgent care. What's the point of having free health care there for you if you face being placed on a waiting list and need to wait months and years to get urgent care? A one size fits all single payer system doesn't work even in Canada and it certainly won't work here.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
10 posted on 03/19/2005 7:24:54 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I know that about 45% of provincial taxes go to pay for health care. For this garbage, that is just wrong.


11 posted on 03/19/2005 7:25:11 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: goldstategop

That's correct. They should only fund such health care for those without private insurance, although they should strongly encourage private companies to fully cover everyone so no one is left behind. (Except for criminals and illegal aliens)


12 posted on 03/19/2005 7:27:04 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: plangent

The universal free access to medical care in Canada is wonderful. There may be a waiting period for some and the system may generate it occasional anomalies, but... Overall it works! Big time!

How do you judge a country's success or failure?

As my late but still great high school history teacher,Mr James (Jim) H. Bocking, used to say:

You judge a country by how it treats its "have-nots" not simply by how it treats it "haves."

Let's have a bit more compassionate conservatism on this board!



13 posted on 03/19/2005 7:30:32 PM PST by Et in Arcadia Ego
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To: Heartofsong83

My wife's nephew is just now beginning a career as a doctor in that system. His father has assured me that it is the best sytem for health care in the world. He is a brilliant, liberal educator.


14 posted on 03/19/2005 7:31:55 PM PST by groanup (democRATs: the thundering stampede of a bewildered herd.)
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"The US system is definitely not perfect, although seems to work better for the majority of the population. Private insurers and delivery should be an option, although I do believe that all working people, as well as disabled and seniors, should be guaranteed to at least basic, essential health care, funded privately or publicly.

Do I as a health-care provider, in this belief of yours, get guaranteed, basic and essential compensation to cover my costs of providing this guaranteed care along with a some profit to provide for my family for things like food, education and retirement?

15 posted on 03/19/2005 7:35:14 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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I'll yet y'all know how it goes when my boy is born this July in a Toronto hospital. It went rosy last time with the first...


16 posted on 03/19/2005 7:36:56 PM PST by balk
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the appointment would be in three months. It added: "If the person named on this computer-generated letter is deceased, please accept our sincere apologies."

You gotta be kidding! I hope we never "improve" our system to be more like Canada. What about Canadians comming to USA for medical treatment?

17 posted on 03/19/2005 7:39:50 PM PST by rdl6989
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That is on the issue of insurance, not delivery. The government would not be your employer.

Note that I would try to encourage private companies (or even religious organizations) to fully cover everyone; that is an extreme situation.


18 posted on 03/19/2005 7:39:55 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: goldstategop
I would think it works for preventive checkups and routine services.

One problem is that free health care encourages people (especially hypochondriacs and the lonely elderly) to consume "routine services".

19 posted on 03/19/2005 7:40:27 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: rdl6989

It's definitely frightening.

The worst part is that is quite "good" in the beliefs of the system; many have to wait up to 18 months or more!


20 posted on 03/19/2005 7:41:17 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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