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Protesters Push Showdown Over Terri Schiavo
NYT ^ | march 20, 2005 | ABBY GOODNOUGH

Posted on 03/19/2005 3:05:30 PM PST by FairOpinion

PINELLAS PARK, Fla., March 19 - The morning after Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was removed, supporters of her parents sought new avenues in their fight to keep the critically brain-damaged woman alive, while police arrested several of the protesters who gathered outside Ms. Schiavo's hospice when they tried to force their way inside.

At midmorning Saturday about 30 people prayed and waved signs outside the Woodside Hospice, and the Rev. Patrick Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition, said that later in the day that he would lead as many protesters as he could gather to Tallahassee, where they would spend the next few days lobbying the State Legislature and Gov. Jeb Bush to somehow force the feeding tube's reinsertion.

Just before 11 a.m. Saturday, three protesters were taken into custody when they tried to force their way past officers guarding the driveway to the hospice and to take bread and water to Ms. Schiavo. The three men - led by James (Bo) Gritz, a former Green Beret commander from Nevada - were arrested on misdemeanor trespassing charges, police officials said.

Ms. Schiavo cannot eat or drink without a feeding tube, but the protesters said the action was meant to be symbolic.

Shortly after the arrests, a man who described himself as a spiritual adviser to Ms. Schiavo's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, emerged from the hospice to say they did not want any civil disobedience. The man, Paul O'Donnell, said the Schindlers were inside and wanted "everything to remain peaceful" adding that they were "devastated but hopeful."

Mary Schindler, who rarely addresses the news media, emerged from the hospice around lunchtime to say that Ms. Schiavo "is my life."

"I am begging Governor Bush and the politicians in Tallahassee, President Bush and the politicians in Washington, please, please, please save my little girl," she said.

Doctors removed the feeding tube from Ms. Schiavo on Friday afternoon. They said that the 41-year-old woman, who suffered extensive brain damage when her heart failed 15 years ago, could live up to two weeks without the liquid meals that were provided through a gastric tube.

She has been the focus of a seven-year fight between her husband, Michael, who is her legal guardian and says that he is fighting to protect her wish to die, and her parents, who reject court findings that she has no cognition and would not want to be kept alive artificially.

Mr. Mahoney, one of several conservative religious leaders trying to rally national protest of the tube removal on grounds that no life should end prematurely, said he hoped more people would travel here as Ms. Schiavo's condition deteriorated.

"We want a spiritual prayer witness sort of thing in Pinellas Park and a more political front in Tallahassee," Mr. Mahoney said.

He added that protesters would pressure Governor Bush to visit Ms. Schiavo at her bedside, as her husband has angrily invited him to do. Mr. Schiavo sued the governor in 2003 after the Legislature passed a law empowering the governor to order Ms. Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted six days after it had been removed.

Mr. Schiavo, appearing Saturday morning on the "Today" show on NBC, said that he was at his wife's side shortly after the tube was removed Friday afternoon and that he knew it was what she wanted.

"It felt like some peace was happening for Terri," Mr. Schiavo said in the television interview. "And I felt like she was finally going to get what she wants, and be at peace and be with the Lord."

Mr. Mahoney - who believes, as Ms. Schiavo's parents do, that she can think and feel and could improve with therapy even though the courts have accepted medical testimony that she cannot - said visiting Ms. Schiavo could prompt the governor to take drastic action.

"It's important for him as a chief executive to see what's being done to one of his residents," Mr. Mahoney said. "Governor Bush might be her last practical hope. We believe he could take her into protective custody or otherwise use his executive privileges."

Mr. Mahoney and Randall Terry, the founder of the antiabortion group Operation Rescue, said they would continue lobbying Congress to pass a bill that would require a federal court hearing in cases like Ms. Schiavo's to evaluate whether the state had followed all requirements for judicial due process. They also said they still hoped the Florida Legislature would pass a law requiring the tube's reinsertion or forcing the replacement of Mr. Schiavo as his wife's guardian.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; turass
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To: Lead Moderator

Thank You!!


81 posted on 03/19/2005 4:36:10 PM PST by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I don't know about President Bush and Executive Order keeping Terri alive, but I do think that that yes, her feeding tube should be re-inserted. In addition, and to my way of thinking, what really needs attention is to have the so-called "husband" removed as her guardian and have Terri divorce him. If Terri has the feeding tube re-inserted now, the "husband" will be back again in the future to demand its removal. And Judge Greer will be right there to help him. This can only be resolved if Michael is removed as her guardian, get a divorce somehow from him, have her parents take care of her and finally, get Terri some rehabilitation therapy. Otherwise, the tube will be re-inserted, removed, ad infinitum. Get rid of the "husband" and the problem will be solved.


82 posted on 03/19/2005 4:36:11 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: maxwellp
Get rid of the "husband" and the problem will be solved.

And the judge. Start an investigation of all the other Pinellas County 'right to die' cases. I'm sure Terri's is not the first. Nor, I suspect, is Greer the only judge in on the scam (have someone declared PVS and kill them to win their estate). The Florida State GOP needs to start openly attacking the Pinellas County GOP or else they'll end up like the Illinois GOP.

83 posted on 03/19/2005 4:48:26 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Long Cut

Isn't this #2?


84 posted on 03/19/2005 4:50:19 PM PST by Hildy
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To: shield
FYI, he has answered back at least 3 times, but makes very little sense in his answers.
85 posted on 03/19/2005 4:57:05 PM PST by lolhelp
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To: maxwellp

Dang!!! I can’t find it now. I read a few hours ago here on FR that her husband, his lawyer, members of the board of directors at the hospice (?) where she is staying, and the judge are all in cahoots to end her life.

Can freepers out there help us here please? Thank you.


86 posted on 03/19/2005 4:57:50 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Fishing-guy
#32 ...technology keeps people alive longer and longer.

There was actually NO technology keeping Terri alive. Other than the brain damage, her basic health is fine. However, even the most rudimentary palliative care was denied her. Therapy, range of motion, any kind of stimulation was prohibited.
87 posted on 03/19/2005 5:07:26 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: FairOpinion
"It felt like some peace was happening for Terri," Mr. Schiavo said in the television interview. "And I felt like she was finally going to get what she wants, and be at peace and be with the Lord."

Bet the Times writer was giggling as he typed that one!

88 posted on 03/19/2005 5:08:47 PM PST by madprof98
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To: shield
Taquito is one nasty troll....he's putting down any and everything regarding Terri and the posters supporting her. One thing this troll will NOT do is answer anyone who post back to him. I'm sick of him....

he is a useful idiot to motivate the compassionate to action.

BTW - Why are there only 30 people outside the place?

There ought to be thousands there, burying the place with food. They ought to go to the store and buy everything they can afford and dump it in the parking lot. They ought to pile it so high that it takes huge front-loaders to shovel it away.
89 posted on 03/19/2005 5:14:53 PM PST by Bear_Slayer (If you're gonna be a Knight act like a Knight.)
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To: lolhelp
I noticed that....I responded to this creep last night when he attacked me and he never answered me. Boy I wish we could get this troll BANNED!!! I think I'll follow this guy around and find somethin' that'll get him banned. These creeps eventually trip up.
90 posted on 03/19/2005 5:15:29 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: shield

He was already banned over an hour ago if not more.


91 posted on 03/19/2005 5:20:05 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: FairOpinion
I don't believe that I have told this story before on FR. My mom did not want to be kept alive by any artificial means at all and when she entered a nursing home, she executed and filed the paperwork required by the state she lived in so that she would not be. She also said on many occasions over the years that she did not want to be kept alive. So there was not any doubt at all about her wishes.

After she had her final stroke, she was unconscious, and my sisters and I sat with her until she died, which was a week after the stroke. About 24 hours before she died, she started to moan with each exhallation. A nurse came in and put a pain patch on her, and the moaning ceased after about an hour. She died early the next morning. This was what my mom wanted so we acceded to her wish. However, she clearly dehydrated over the last week, and it was NOT painless. I was there, and I know.

92 posted on 03/19/2005 5:24:07 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: Irene Adler

Thank you for sharing your experience. May your Mother rest in peace.


Another article with someone else's story:

A "Painless" Death?

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/medical_ethics/me0074.html


93 posted on 03/19/2005 5:28:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (http://www.helpterri.com)
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To: FairOpinion

Thank you, FO.


94 posted on 03/19/2005 5:32:48 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: EggsAckley
I have been weeping and half sick for two days now, and these trolls are enjoying making it worse.

I have never understood those that joy in the pain of others.

God Bless.

95 posted on 03/19/2005 5:40:52 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state, and a former Army Red Leg.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Great...thanks for the update!!!


96 posted on 03/19/2005 5:43:10 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

No, he has no authority here.


97 posted on 03/19/2005 5:45:58 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

Thank you for the depressing news. : (


98 posted on 03/19/2005 6:24:02 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: supercat

Thank you for your reply. I did forget Judge Greer. He needs to be removed permantely!


99 posted on 03/19/2005 6:52:17 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: supercat

Yes, I forgot Judge Greer. Unless he's removed as a judge, Terri will have no peace. Thank you for the reminder.


100 posted on 03/19/2005 7:04:37 PM PST by maxwellp
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