Posted on 03/19/2005 11:30:38 AM PST by Ravi
Just heard on Fox that U.S. Senate will convene today in emergency session regarding Terri Schiavo.
"Here's the business model. We know that the population of American seniors is increasing exponentially. We know that entrepreneurs well aware of this fact have been planning their responses for a long time."
Yes--but there are two types of entrepreneurs: moral and amoral/immoral. We Conservatives who are always portrayed as being so lacking in compassion--are finally rising up against the cold cruelty of monsters who are using capitalist techniques to play God and get rich doing it. We must indeed stand up to this, we Compassionate Conservatives, against the heartless, Godless totalitarians like Greer and his ilk. COURAGE, GOP!
supposedly greer couldn't touch a federal subpoena either..but he thumbed his nose at it... and he's broken several florida laws already... what's to stop him from ignoring this?
I do not feel I am making a poor judgment. I demand that my husband speak for me and not my Mother. My beloved knows my wishes and frankly it will not happen to me but there are some who are young and do not make their wishes known. Should congress get involved, I say no. These are my beliefs they are no more better or worse then yours or other's on this thread.
I appreciate learning, I appreciate the passion on both sides. I know what heroic methods are a cancer survivor. I also realize she is not on any machine but she does rely on folks to make sure she receives the needed to nutrients to support ability to live.
okey dokie, but as much as I feel murderous toward people like Scott Peterson, I don't much like the death penalty. But I am not a democrat.
Where are the expenditures for medical care and living expenses?
I only saw attorney expenses.
Do you mean to say that Terri's care has been paid for by taxpayers under the Medicaid program?
Well I never. Michael Schiavo is a double dipping parasite.
But the Chivas withdrawal would kill poor Teddy within days.
Oh my, the poor thing has been suffering.
Half of that is LEGALLY Terri's. Could we call this a motive for starvation....
Apparently you do not consider "till death do us part" serious when you married your spouse.
Your position has a problem in logic. A pretty big one. Either his wife said she did not want to be kept alive or she did not say this. His decision to allow her to starve to death should have been made sometime earlier, if his wife REALLY DID tell him she never wanted to live in a vegitative state. If he loved her, with those instructions from his wife, she would have never been kept alive for 5 months much less five years.
Why not just give up custody to the parents? It's the Denero.
That is a court decision not legislation passed by Congress (two different animals) - Unless of course it is a Clinton tax-hike (which amazingly was retroactive).
The loving embrace of United States Marshals.
Thanks for the reminder to keep praying. This whole subject has me so angry. I have been following it for years and I just can't believe it is unfolding in the country that I love. The country is as divided as it is was during the elections - half the people screaming to "let" (make!) her die - and the other half screaming to let her live.
OH, and you still haven't proven Terri wants to die.
He gets the house which is community property.And exempt from medicaid spend down rules.
The guys is amazing. Medicaid is paying the freight, he has money in that big old house and he would lose it if he divorced her.
I hate to have to disagree with you (and be labeled pro-death) but I wouldn't want my husband to have to suspend his life for 40 years if there is no hope for me returning back to my old way of life.
Of course in Satanic sacrifice, the more innocent the life that is destroyed, the greater 'value' of the sacrifice.
It's just a website, doc. Nobody here has any input whatsoever into anything that's happening in Florida.
Let's not get carried away.
thought we'd have those with the subpoena thing.. sorry..
A poster on another thread found the following item which I repost below -- but there's lots, lots, more. Even Felos's wife has some interesting connections.
What doesn't seem to be getting across to some people is that this case is just like the little political corruption cases which go on everyday in your own town -- you know, all the usual "local leaders" making sweetheart deals and running schemes and scams. Unfortunately for the Pinellas County bunch, Terri Schiavo's story has gone nationwide, and I'm guessing that when the full spotlight falls on this little bunch, there's going to be a whole lot of scattering rats.
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Check out what I just found about the underground workings of Judge Greer, Michael Schiavo and their 'friends' in Pinellas County. Posted on
Hyscience.com
I can't personally vouch for the truth of any of these statements, but they're verifiable. Worth getting out there if even partly true. It explains a lot, because it's been obvious for a while that there's something incestuous about this whole situation.
The Hapless Misadventures of the Pinellas County Court System: An incestuous tale
If this doesn't leave you scratching your head in confusion and wondering how this is happening in the year 2005 when our legal system is supose to be squeaki clean, you have no hair!
Judges are impartial, right? Not Judge George Greer, the judge that has ordered Terri Schiavo executed by starvation and dehydration, twice.
Our good ole boy judge has worked side by side as county commissioner with Barbara Sheen Todd (county commissioner) for eight years. Barbara Sheen Todd is on the board of, you guessed it, the hospice where Terri Schiavo is kept prisoner by her husband, Michael Schiavo, who lives with another woman that he has two children with.
Also, Judge Greer's fellow judge, Judge John Lenderman is the brother of Martha Lenderman, also on the, you got it, the same hospice board.
Our fine judge accepted as the basis of his rulings, the questionable testimony of Michael Schiavo that Terri would wish to be killed, yet Michael never stated this until after he had received the 1.2 million dollar settlement during which time he portrayed himself as a loving husband that just wanted to bring his wife home and take care of her.
The judge also accepted as the basis of his rulings, the "opinion" of a third doctor who is the brother of a close associate of George Felos, Michael Schiavo's right-to-kill attorney, and very significantly, former Chairman of, you got it again, the same hospice board, Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, which operates Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Florida.
Still have some hair left? Let's see what we can do about that!
Mary Laybak, CEO of Woodside Hospice has direct ties to Euthanasia Society of America and Hemlock for Hospice, an organization that seeks to accelerate the dying process. Federal funds may not be used for these purposes.
The Hospice is a federally funded program designed for terminally ill and those whose death is eminent. Terri has been in Woodside Hospice illegally for three years under Medicaid payments, for free, courtesy of, yep, George Felos. Felos combined and conspired with Michael Schiavo to arrange for Terri's "free" stay at Hospice Woodside as part of an "exit protocol" designed to advance Felos' self-perceived messianic mission of "helping" incapacitated people to die by categorizing them as "terminal," warehousing them, and depriving them of therapy and rehabilitation services.
US Dept of Health and Human Services is currently trying to collect $14.8 million from Florida Suncoast Hospice, owed to them since 1997. The squeaki-clean(not) Hospice is accused of patient brokering and several lawsuits filed by Attorney Jonathan Alpert are pending.
And back to our friend the judge, just what kind of testimony has he weighted to put Terri in a hell on earth without chance of parole?
Judge Greer refused to acknowledge testimony of 10 doctors and 3 nurses who have cared for Terri and who testify that:
a) Terri is not in a persistive vegetative state
b) Terri is able to be rehabilitated with care and therapy
c) Terri’s original injuries are questionable and consistent with spouse abuse and attempted strangulation
d) Terri has been abused and neglected by her husband; denied treatment for infection and possible attempted murder while in nursing home care (discovery of empty insulin vial and temperature in room set at 64 degrees)
Judge Greer instead chose to believe contrary testimony by two of Michael’s representatives who are:
a) A doctor who rarely sees Terri (Dr. Gambone who has now resigned as Terri’s doctor)
b) Ronald Cranford, Hannipeg County Medical Center , Minnesota who makes an avocation of testifying in cases such as Terri's throughout the country, always on the side of dehydration and starvation.
I'd happily do away with the death penalty.
But the two issues are not remotely comparable.
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