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US Senate to convene emergency session. (Schiavo) Fox news. Tom Delay speaking now
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Posted on 03/19/2005 11:30:38 AM PST by Ravi

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To: Cold Heat

you may call it medical services ...

But where I come from it known as food and water

And I am well aware there are cases that there are no other options for a patient other then to let nature takes it's cause

My mother died last year .. long story short, her organs were shutting down

Though there was nothing we could do to save her medical .. we also did know deny her comfort


1,661 posted on 03/20/2005 2:12:23 AM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: Mo1

grrr

did know = did not


1,662 posted on 03/20/2005 2:13:29 AM PST by Mo1 (Why can't the public see Terry - What are they afraid of ??)
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To: Cold Heat

Dream about the difference between your dogs and Terri's smile and then decide if you will put your dog down tomorrow because he looks brain dead to you.


1,663 posted on 03/20/2005 2:13:48 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Cold Heat

Thanks for Dr. Hammesfahr's affidavit. It does show that Judge Greer is ignoring testamony that is not in keeping with his prejudiced determination. He is one who is allowing the ends to justify the means. The idea of Terri Schiavo's PVS may be the ultimate court abuse that shall not be allowed to go unpunished. He has played a dangerous game. The scrutiny that he has brought upon his court conduct may be his undoing.


1,664 posted on 03/20/2005 2:32:22 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46
I smell a cover up by this judge.... translated he might say;"she is brain dead......everyone (that I allowed to speak) thinks so."

Baghdad Bob didn't do well at fooling anyone either, nor clinton for that matter.

Then again, if a person is thought by some to be brain dead it all depends on what your definition of is is.

1,665 posted on 03/20/2005 2:44:44 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Collier
Fifth District in Iowa. It's a large area going from MN to MO on the western part of the state. It's a very Republican district.

Steve attained his seat in an unusual way. There was a four way primary and even though Steve got the most votes he did not have the required 35% so the delegates to the district convention were reconvened and there he eventually prevailed to become the nominee. From that point on, it's a cakewalk. I don't know why any Democrat even bothers running. He can be there as long as he likes.

1,666 posted on 03/20/2005 3:24:55 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: FairOpinion; Cold Heat
" also am a Doxie (wiener dog)owner and I believe the Daschunds personality is a lot like mine!

LOL! That explains everything! The running around from poster to poster, being an annoyance by nipping at our ankles, desperately whimpering for attention....

1,667 posted on 03/20/2005 3:57:59 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Petronski

Terri has had a guardian ad litem and numerous doctors look at her. Numberous courts. Numerous tests.

Does Terri have electrodes in her head? I ask for a specific reason and would like to know the answer.


1,668 posted on 03/20/2005 4:51:38 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Cold Heat
You people are off the deep end and don't even know it.

We're in pretty good company then because Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Mark Levin, and a host of others are also "off the deep end".
By the way, the aforementioned are more than well-acquainted with Constitutional law.
When the dust clears from this episode maybe you and Hildy can tutor them and put 'em on the right path, eh?

1,669 posted on 03/20/2005 5:24:29 AM PST by jla
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To: Repub4bush; gettingbored
Bye, Gettingbored.

"He's dead, Jim!"


1,670 posted on 03/20/2005 5:38:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: FBD
You have not understood a word that I've said. As a conservative, you're supposed to think. If all you do is emote, you're just a liberal.

1,671 posted on 03/20/2005 5:49:50 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: FBD

Here's an opposing point of view, from another doctor:

http://doctorisin.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_doctorisin_archive.html

Thanks but I didn't need an opposing point of view. The supporting view was repugnant all by itself.


1,672 posted on 03/20/2005 6:15:17 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Ravi
This congressional action sure seems to be opening a giant can of worms!

I will expect a flood of new appeals to US Reps., US Senators and The President to intervene in other civil matters that aren't resolved at the local and state level to one party or another's satisfaction?

Like this:

KRISTIE RIEKEN
Associated Press
March 15, 2005

Baby removed from life support in Texas

HOUSTON - A critically ill 5-month-old was taken off life support and died Tuesday, a day after a judge cleared the way for doctors to halt care they believed to be futile. The infant's mother had fought to keep him alive.

Sun Hudson had been diagnosed with a fatal genetic disorder called thanatophoric dysplasia, a condition characterized by a tiny chest and lungs too small to support life. He had been on a ventilator since birth.

Wanda Hudson unsuccessfully fought to continue her son's medical care. She believed he needed time to grow and could eventually be weaned off the ventilator.

"I wanted life for my son," Hudson said Tuesday. "The hospital gave up on him too soon."

Texas law allows hospitals to end life support in cases such as this but requires that families be given 10 days to find another facility to care for the patient. No hospital was found to take the baby.

The ethics committee at Texas Children's Hospital reviewed Sun's case before recommending that life support be stopped. Hospital officials also recommended the case be taken to court and offered to pay Hudson's attorney fees.

"Texas Children's Hospital is deeply saddened to report that Sun Hudson has died," the hospital said in a statement issued Tuesday.

Should the President of the United States have intervened in this case?

1,673 posted on 03/20/2005 6:20:25 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
"Credible" defined as agreeing with you.

No, credible as in "not spewing inaccurate boilerplate." These people actually KNOW the law and aren't willing to toss it to the trash heap like some of you are.

1,674 posted on 03/20/2005 7:02:46 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Cold Heat

IT's not right to take the alleged word of the spouse when no legal document exists. The spouse wasted no time moving on, and denied Terri therapy just as soon as he got the money awarded to him. Now he's living in Terri's house with his new slut. The reasons why Terri ended up in the hospital were also suspicous. And, her parents beg to differ with you!


1,675 posted on 03/20/2005 7:10:57 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I believe Congress will set a dangerous precedent for the future by being inserted into this equation.

Exactly. Because the bill they are going to pass today, if they can, also has a "sense of the Congress" thing it it requiring them to "explore" this issue of family and friends butting in. God himself could not know where these fools will go with that.

1,676 posted on 03/20/2005 7:11:44 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Awestruck
supposedly greer couldn't touch a federal subpoena either..but he thumbed his nose at it... and he's broken several florida laws already... what's to stop him from ignoring this?

We are about to have an Act of Congress on Terri Schiavo with jurisdiction in the federal courts. Greer won't have any part in it.

Lay the blame where it belongs: Mr. Schiavo. His obstinacy forced this outcome.

1,677 posted on 03/20/2005 7:12:30 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: Cold Heat

If it's all drivel why is the Senate getting involved?


1,678 posted on 03/20/2005 7:13:10 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Miss Behave

"And isn't it amazing to watch people defend this on the grounds that his wife isn't really alive, implying the marriage contract loses it's teeth based on her incapacited condition rendering his co-habitation and child producing justified, but then turn around and argue for her death based on the viability and sacrosanct nature of the marriage contract?"

AMEN!


1,679 posted on 03/20/2005 7:16:29 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Howlin
These people actually KNOW the law and aren't willing to toss it to the trash heap like some of you are.

You are welcome to worship at the altar of the Judges. But some laws belong on the trash heap.

The Enabling Act

Although Hitler won the office of German chancellor in legal fashion (the Nazis, after all, were the largest group in the Reichstag or lower house of parliament)), he was, of course, determined to rule Germany without the restraint of a democratically elected parliament. For this to happen he had to set aside the guarantees of civil rights and democratic procedures established by the Weimar Constitution, a tactic that required the approval of two-thirds of sitting representatives. This was achieved by calling a new election (which increased the Nazi vote) and using force and intimidation against the existing parties, especially those of the Socialists and Communists, many of whose elected representatives were jailed as political enemies or forced to flee the country. Once assured of the votes of the Catholic Center party, the two-thirds majority was assured. Thus, over the unavailing opposition of Socialist deputies, the March 24 session gave Hitler approval of legislation enabling him to exercise dictatorial rule for four years, leaving the Nazis free to suborn Germany's hitherto free institutions and subordinate both state and people to the ideological demands of the new regime. Of course the compliant Reichsrat (upper house) followed suit. Inevitably, the Act was renewed in 1937 and persisted until the collapse of Germany in 1945.

The official name of the Enabling legislation was "Law for the Removal of the Distress of People and Reich."

The Reichstag [the lower house of parliament] has passed the following law, which is, with the approval of the Reichsrat [the upper house], herewith promulgated, after it has been established that it satisfies the requirements for legislation altering the Constitution.

ARTICLE 1. In addition to the procedure for the passage of legislation outlined in the Constitution, the Reich Cabinet is also authorized to enact Laws. . . .

ARTICLE 2. The national laws enacted by the Reich Cabinet may deviate from the Constitution provided they do not affect the position of the Reichstag and the Reichsrat. The powers of the President remain unaffected.

ARTICLE 3. The national laws enacted by the Reich Cabinet shall be prepared by the Chancellor and published in the official gazette. They come into effect, unless otherwise specified, upon the day following their publication . . .

ARTICLE 4. Treaties of the Reich with foreign states which concern matters of domestic legislation do not require the consent of the bodies participating in legislation. The Reich Cabinet is empowered to issue the necessary provisions for the implementing of these treaties.

ARTICLE 5. This law comes into effect on the day of its publication. It ceases to be valid on 1 April 1937: . . .

1,680 posted on 03/20/2005 7:19:13 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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