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The Escalating War Between the Old and New Media
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | MARCH 19, 2005 | CHRISTOPHER ADAMO

Posted on 03/19/2005 9:06:22 AM PST by freeholland

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To: hosepipe

Terri Schivo is the dividing line. It is crystal clear who in the GOP is a conservative and who is not based on what they are trying to do to save/murder her.


21 posted on 03/19/2005 10:16:43 AM PST by demkicker (John McCain is a power hungry traitor and proved it on 2/19/05 in Iraq)
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To: Bar-Face
No, John McCain is what I would call a demagogic, graft taking, money grubbing, power hungry, Presidential wannabe.

That's true.

But McCain would be completely impotent in his efforts to strangle free speech if not for George Bush Junior's full approval of those efforts, and his eager signing of the Free Speech Suppression Act.

Demonstrated by his actions, George Bush Junior (maybe Senior, too) obviously hates free speech at least as much as McCain.

Why anyone supports these cheap politicians and their assaults on American values is beyond me.

22 posted on 03/19/2005 10:23:16 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: hosepipe

Democrats want a democratic form of government?

I seriously doubt that, the majority of them think the socialist form of governments in France and Russia allow the 'common' folk way too much power. True the U.S. of A. is a republic and God willing, shall always be a republic.

Democrats have no intention of establishing a 'democracy'.


23 posted on 03/19/2005 10:26:52 AM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: Bahbah

if Frist saves Terri he is elected President in '08.


24 posted on 03/19/2005 10:36:46 AM PST by kralcmot (save us all, fight for Terri's right to Life)
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To: demkicker

see #24


25 posted on 03/19/2005 10:37:30 AM PST by kralcmot (save us all, fight for Terri's right to Life)
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To: goldstategop
Yep. And if heaven forbid, he gets the GOP nod in '08, I'm sitting the election out.

I just can't see that happening. The GOP base would turn out in droves in the primaries to ensure McCain gets nowhere near the nomination. Only Hillary Clinton would drive a larger "negative" turnout.

26 posted on 03/19/2005 10:40:48 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: freeholland
a restoration of its former media monopoly is the cornerstone on which liberalism is dependent for its very survival.

That is true, and it has great implications for our friends to the North. Canada is a place where, until recently, there was a liberal monopoly on media that put our own to shame. But now they have Fox News.

It will take a few years for results to show, but I predict that conservatives in Canada will find out that they are not isolated anomalies, but are in fact about half the population. That will have serious consequences for the politics in Canada.

I don't think there's a way to speed it up; we have to wait for Canadians to find and accept Fox News on their own.


27 posted on 03/19/2005 10:46:47 AM PST by Nick Danger (You can stick a fork in the Mullahs... they're done)
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
[ Democrats have no intention of establishing a 'democracy' ]

You're WRONG.....

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Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

28 posted on 03/19/2005 10:52:56 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: freeholland

McCain hopes to be president some day, so he can imitate his idols, Leonid Brezhnev and Yuri Andropov. We must fight any choice between this apparatchik and her Hillariness.


29 posted on 03/19/2005 10:55:50 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Hank Rearden
But McCain would be completely impotent in his efforts to strangle free speech if not for George Bush Junior's full approval of those efforts, and his eager signing of the Free Speech Suppression Act.

I don't know how "eager" he was. Many believe he just played politics and expected the SC to overturn it. If that's the case, he was foolish.

The courts are where we have to focus. The courts are pretty much running things now and must be stopped from creating law. That is where the greatest danger to our Republic lies.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

FMCDH(BITS)

30 posted on 03/19/2005 10:58:45 AM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: demkicker
[ Terri Schivo is the dividing line. It is crystal clear who in the GOP is a conservative and who is not based on what they are trying to do to save/murder her. ]

The Terri Shiavo thing is a mystery to me.. Maybe its a Roman Catholic thing.. A mystery as to the intensity of the outrage that is.. Every fourth thread here is a Terri Shiavo thread.. Its seems almost an obsession.. as opposed to righteous indignation of some sort..

31 posted on 03/19/2005 11:03:43 AM PST by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: nothingnew
I don't know how "eager" he was. Many believe he just played politics and expected the SC to overturn it. If that's the case, he was foolish.

No, he wasn't "foolish". He was a gutless, duplicitous, spineless, cheap weaselly politician. He should have said "F you, McCain" and torn up that piece of crap in his face.

A principled, liberty-loving president would have done nothing less. Bushie signed it happily.

And assaults like this on the very spirit of America's founding are just fine with many, including many FReepers. It's disgusting.

32 posted on 03/19/2005 11:11:55 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden
Like I said..."playing politics". I'm with you HR. I consider most of the pubs in the houses as a cancer and most of the dems to be a heart attack. Pick your poison.

My main concern is the judiciary, where we as citizens and voters have NO control. NO vote/NO recall.

I have updated my FMCDH (From My Cold Dead Hands) sign-off with the addition of (BITS).....Blood In The Streets, which I foresee coming soon, due to the enormous increase of the Marxist progressive movement being shoved down the throat of this failing REPUBLIC through the Judicial tyranny of fiat law, the passing of unconstitutional laws by the Legislative and Executive branches of our government and the enormous tax burden placed upon the average American to support unconstitutional programs put forth by Marxist ideology.

I do not advocate revolution. I just see what is coming.

FMCDH(BITS)

33 posted on 03/19/2005 12:27:23 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: nothingnew; Hank Rearden
Here's a thought.

Read this WSJ Editorial by Daniel Henninger. With the passing of the almighty network anchors........all but Sir Pete at ABC, there is hope that we will have a better informed population. This has to work AGAINST the marxist elements in the liberal media.

"Dan Rather deserves more than a kick in the pants on his way out the door to a fly-fishing stream in West Texas. With Tom Brokaw's retirement just ahead of Rather's, this is the official end of an era, not just in television but in the cultural life of the nation. There was a time when what happened in the United States got defined by three men: Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings. If they said an event was big, it became big. If they ignored it, it hardly mattered. With two of the three retiring within months of each other, it's worth a look at what happened over the years to them, to the news--and to us.

The golden era of the network anchorman ended about 10 years ago, when FOX and MSNBC joined CNN with constant news programming. With that, the news dominance of CBS, NBC and ABC washed out to sea. Still, the glory days of the network news anchors was really something to behold."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/dhenninger/?id=110006435

This article was also posted early this morning here on FR, but I don't have the link.

34 posted on 03/19/2005 1:22:08 PM PST by freeholland (in memory of Theo Van Gogh)
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To: hosepipe
In that perspective we agree, the democrats are hell bent on establishing a socialist society in America.

Though there is nothing democratic about a one party 'democracy', where the 'election' winners are predetermined. Such is the case in governments that adhered to the very misguided writings of Marx, Lenin, et al.

Soviet Union, China, North Korea, etc.

Politics is not a straight line determination of who is on the Right and who is on the Left. It is a circle where the far left, Marxism and the far right, Fascism meet - on the opposite side of the circle from our founding fathers.
35 posted on 03/19/2005 1:25:43 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: nothingnew
A 'revolution' that reinstates the Constitution is not a revolution, it is Justice.

Where to draw the line between peaceful attempts to right the ship of state versus when to mutiny against a tyrant is one that history will eventually judge.

I agree the time will come, if we do not succeed at revolution via the ballot box. It doesn't look likely as the socialist agenda seems to gain a stronger foot hold every day.

The GOP is just as guilty as anyone, if they do not step up to the plate and take the actions required to return our government back to the hands of the people. The judiciary is out of control and it will bring the downfall of not only our form of government, but also the collapse of our economy and the strangulation of our liberty.
36 posted on 03/19/2005 1:36:45 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
I agree the time will come, if we do not succeed at revolution via the ballot box. It doesn't look likely as the socialist agenda seems to gain a stronger foot hold every day.

The ballot box means nothing to me anymore. Yeah, I hold my nose and vote. The corruption in the voting system is ludicrous and getting even moreso. Witness the neverending recounts demanded...everywhere, by both parties. Bread and circuses for all, as our Republic goes down the tubes to marxism by both parties. Voting is becoming the joke of the new millenium.

I'm glad I'm on in my years...witnessing the tearing down of the Constitution I have the overwhelming desire to laugh at the foolishness of "the people" and the desire of the same, to turn their lives over to a bunch of power hungry "elected" officials who crave nothing more than more money, bigger retirement plans with the best medical coverage in the history of the world while they demand national health coverage for all, not like their's of course, and in the meantime, trample the Constitution.

There is nothingnew under the sun. I'm glad I know where I'm going in a few years.

FMCDH(BITS)

37 posted on 03/19/2005 1:54:57 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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To: Temple Owl
Last week, during an interview in Beijing, Washington Post Managing Editor Philip Bennett voiced his contention that the United States should not be the “leader of the world.”

Bet there are a lot more Chinese citizens who'd prefer us as "leader of the world" than Americans who'd prefer the Chinese.

38 posted on 03/19/2005 4:07:09 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
I don't know if I'd cover that bet right now. With the hillary! piaps running for President in '08, (you know she will) and the supposed support she'll have, and nobody in the pub party stepping forward worth their salt to run against her, I can't bet on anything right now. Seems the pendulum will swing back, as it always does.

Our best hope is that the Judicial branch gets back to a Constitutional stance before '08 and then we roll with the punches. Argueing with the gubbmint is futile. Look to the Judicial, because the elected will sell you and me out at the drop of a hat. Always was, always will be.

FMCDH(BITS)

39 posted on 03/19/2005 5:53:50 PM PST by nothingnew (There are two kinds of people; Decent and indecent.)
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