Posted on 03/19/2005 7:40:47 AM PST by ShadowDancer
If the parents haven't talught the child to behave better than this by they age of 5, what makes you think that they will have her behaving any better by the age of 6. I'm betting she would be worse because she'd have another year to practice.
I certainly agree. The teacher screwed up, the school authorities screwed up and a five year old screwed up, yet since it was a government school, who get arrested?
But then the "they set up my baby" mentality just reveals the poor kid basically has no chance in life. You can survive a bad kindergarten teacher or a bad assistant principal much easier than a parent with no clue.
Neither can social workers or foster parents. Which means that even if you get the little hellions out of the home, which of course there would have to be some legitimate reason to do, they are pretty much guaranteed of never having any serious consequences for their behavior.
SOMEBODY SET ME UP THE JELLYBEAN!
Teacher: "Okay, children, today we will learn a lesson in self-control. You will find your inkwells are filled with jellybeans. I want you to take them out, one by one, and line them up on your desk in the proper color sequence, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet. Remember, you are forbidden to put one in your mouth."
Little Sally muses what the word, 'forbidden' means as she chomps down on the orange one. She is immediately thrown against the wall, body searched, cuffed, roped and tied pending the arrival of a medic with a stomach pump to retrieve the evidence.
As she was being dragged out the door by the cops, she was heard saying, "But you knew I was a five-year-old when you put the candy in front of me!"
They can either do nothing, plead with the child or call the cops. There is no middle ground anymore.
You have got to be kidding! No way is that kind of behavior appropriate in any setting or for any reason, unless the child was literally defending her life. She could have seriously hurt someone. No, I do NOT believe that police should be involved in dealing with school children, but I do believe that she should have had her little @$$ wore out. Kids who get away with this kind of behavior and then blame others for THEIR problems are nothing more than criminals in training and their parents and teachers are their coaches.
Arresting her was an extreme reaction, but if my innocent 5 year old had to sit in a class and witness this type of out of control, over the top behavior from another kid....I might feel different.
My concern is with the other 19 kids who were doing what they were supposed to be doing. Why should they be subject to this?
Another reason to homeschool if you asked me.
Arresting the child was ridiculous.
However, a quick spank on the bottom might have solved the 'tantrum' issue.
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Hurry officer... arrest this out of control FReeper... she has unabashedly uttered th "s" word... indicating it should be applied to the "b" word of a sweet little five-year-old girl !!! Hurry, officer... before this blatant criminal signs off !!!
And how would you suggest she do that? In most PUBLIC schools, teachers are not allowed to spank, restrain, isolate or confine. They have zero leverage. What are they going to do? Give an out of control, screaming brat a cute little "time out"?
I agree with you on the first part of your statement, though.
Do you know WHAT the child was doing with the jelly beans? No, I don't either. MOST teachers would not be upset by a kindergartener eating candy they are supposed to be counting. Perhaps the girl was throwing them across room. Would it be acceptable for the teacher to remove the candy then?
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Scary thing is, I could see that.
Adults are supposed to be smarter than 5 year olds. There are many way to correct this child's behavior - and deal with it - without calling in the police. Calling the police is so far down on the list it does not even make the list.
Yes, arresting the child WAS rediculous. We have street thugs and gang bangers shooting people and you think calling in the police to arrest a 5-year-old that acts up in class is not rediculous?!
I'll take it that you are advocating strict punishment and not really a total waste of law enforcement resources.
I again promote the book: "The Epidemic. The Rot of American Culture, Absentee and Permissive Parenting, and the Resultant Plague of Joyless, Selfish Children" by Robert Shaw.
She began acting silly which is why the jelly beans were removed. That does not excuse the kind of behavior that followed in a five year old. By both accounts from both papers she was totally out of control.
Of course I don't think she should have been arrested but I do know that with how litigous our society is now that no teacher in their right mind would on their own dare to restrain a child that out of control. If you don't think her momma would have exercised her judical rights if she had, just read what she said about her 'baby'.
Sadly, yes. They faced litigation and maybe criminal charges if they did anythng else.
Standard Gen X rules.
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