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The Schiavo Case [lead NYT editorial]
New York Times ^ | 3/19/05

Posted on 03/19/2005 6:03:33 AM PST by mathprof

Congressional leaders are playing a dangerous game with their intrusion into the hotly publicized fight in Florida over maintaining life support for a severely brain-damaged woman. With state legislative and court appeals being exhausted, the House and Senate began some grim one-upsmanship to stop the removal of the feeding tube from Terri Schiavo. She is the 41-year-old woman who has been in a persistent vegetative state for the last 15 years, with her parents contesting that sad diagnosis. They also challenged the careful decisions by Florida's trial and appellate courts, based largely on the testimony of her husband that their daughter would have chosen to die rather than live indefinitely in such condition.

Congress seized the issue in the closing hours of its March budget debate. After bungled attempts to grant federal court review of the case, leaders of the two houses blamed each other for Ms. Schiavo's potential demise. They then landed on the ghoulish gimmick of postponing removal of her feeding tube by subpoenaing her to a House hearing and inviting her to a separate hearing in the Senate. The Senate majority leader, Bill Frist, said that criminal law protects witnesses called before Congress "from anyone who may obstruct or impede a witness's attendance or testimony."

After considering the issue yesterday, the state appellate judge presiding over the case ordered the removal of Ms. Schiavo's feeding tube to proceed, finding Congress's intervention created no "emergency" requiring postponement. No doubt this is not the end of this painful drama. Meanwhile we can only lament the Republicans' theatrical effort to expand their so-called pro-life agenda to include intervening in a case already studied and litigated exhaustively under Florida law. Congress's rash assumption of judicial power and trampling on established state and federal constitutional precedents in "right to die" cases is nothing short of breathtaking.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigmedia; boycottstarbucks; breathtaking; culturweofdeath; euthenasia; murder; nytimes; righttolive; schiavo; starvingtodeath; terri; terrischiavo; wrongsideoflife
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To: Route101

or an Islamic terrorist.


161 posted on 03/19/2005 9:47:11 AM PST by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: acad1228

Actually, the owners and managers of the New York Times should be rounded up and commited.


162 posted on 03/19/2005 9:47:42 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
How about your "ex wife" (should you ever have one). Would you wish her to have a "say" on pulling your plug?

Yes. If I were god forbid to have a brain injury today, my wife is by far in the best position to know my wishes. If she finds another guy down the line, she still is in the best position to know my wishes at the time of my incapacity.

163 posted on 03/19/2005 9:49:17 AM PST by Randjuke
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To: Hildy
Seems that most of us here are of the impression that Terri left no written statement, and her husband and that Greer fellow are not above suspicion.

Ergo, the law, technically, requires that she be kept alive.

So what was it you were arguing ~ that we kill her anyway?

164 posted on 03/19/2005 9:50:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ContraryMary
It doesn't work that way. Just because Congress decides to butt in doesn't make it a Congressional matter.

You really dont seem to understand what a Congressional subpeona and contempt for Congress are, do you?

165 posted on 03/19/2005 9:52:08 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Randjuke

In this country you don't get to kill people just because they are brain damaged. Maybe that stuff flew in the USSR and Nazi Germany, but not here!

Besides, the method is BARBARIC, INHUMANE and beyond justification.


166 posted on 03/19/2005 9:52:20 AM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: zarf
Zarf, are you still arguing on behalf of giving murder a privileged sanctuary within the family?

Was your daddy a mobster, or what?

167 posted on 03/19/2005 9:52:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ContraryMary
It doesn't work that way. Just because Congress decides to butt in doesn't make it a Congressional matter.

Uh, that's exactly how it works.

168 posted on 03/19/2005 9:52:33 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: New Orleans Slim

There are no machines. For you to say so suggests you know nothing of this case, or you just wish to take the opportunity to dip your spear in Terri's blood.


169 posted on 03/19/2005 9:53:18 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: New Orleans Slim
But you avoid the question - who is paying for all of this medical care? If it's tax money then pull the plug.

I guess that's only a question for you.

As far as Terri's concerned her husband won a 1.2 million dollar lawsuit to pay for her care including rehab and therapy. About 3-4 months later, when the first check was cut from the award, he ordered her rehab and therapy stopped. He has since spent $700,000 of that in court trying to get her food and water stopped.

Are you saying that you didn't see any response from Terri in that video? A "vegetable" can't laugh or make any sounds like that at all. There is a medical definition of persistent vegetative state you know. Tell me this though; if vegetables aren't worth feeding are meatheads? What's the cost to society to let meatheads run around spewing out verbal inanities about subjects they know nothing about? Gas the meatheads!

170 posted on 03/19/2005 9:53:19 AM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!)
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To: zarf

There was no power of attorney.


171 posted on 03/19/2005 9:53:50 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ContraryMary
Now you're arguing that there are classes of murder based on color.

I thought we were over that crap.

172 posted on 03/19/2005 9:55:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: zarf
We have to rely on her power of attorney.

If you have her written power of attorney, by all means, produce the document. It would be news to a lot of people. I'd love to see it myself.

173 posted on 03/19/2005 9:55:23 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: New Orleans Slim
If it's tax money then pull the plug. I don't think the government should further pick our pockets to pay for vegetables.

Moderator, please remove that post as it is deeply offensive, contributes ntohing to the discussion and is inflamatory.

Though I guess it does illustrate the kind of vermin that we are dealing with.

174 posted on 03/19/2005 9:56:12 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: New Orleans Slim

Private parties are paying the medical expenses. You're not going to save taxpayer dollars by killing this woman you know.


175 posted on 03/19/2005 9:57:11 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ContraryMary
...a 15-year investigation...

Get real. There have been some hearings during a fifteen-year period. It's not a 15-year investigation.

176 posted on 03/19/2005 9:57:46 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife
Don't count too heavily on this Greer character being all that human. He looks and sounds like a stone cold killer.

It sometimes happens that you get a sociopath on the bench.

177 posted on 03/19/2005 9:58:04 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: mabelkitty

I'm sure they carried stories on it.


178 posted on 03/19/2005 9:58:48 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: mathprof

How do we remove the Times feeding tube?


179 posted on 03/19/2005 9:59:08 AM PST by Danae (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: ContraryMary
How many times does the same evidence have to be presented?

How about some DIFFERENT evidence, like an MRI?

180 posted on 03/19/2005 9:59:11 AM PST by Petronski (If 'Judge' Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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