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Navy defends decision to retire carrier
Government Executive.com ^ | March 18, 2005

Posted on 03/18/2005 6:15:17 AM PST by robowombat

Navy defends decision to retire carrier From CongressDaily

Pressed by Senate appropriators, the top Navy officials Wednesday strongly defended their decision to retire the Mayport, Fla.-based aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy and warned that if forced to retain the ship they would have to take money from more important programs. Navy Secretary Gordon England went on to predict that the active carrier force could drop below 11 ships without regard to what decision was made on the Kennedy.

"It's not clear to me that it always stay at 11," England told the Senate Defense Appropriations subcommittee. "As capabilities increase, we could go down."

The Navy's plans in the fiscla 2006 budget to retire the Kennedy this year triggered an outcry by both the Florida congressional delegation and pro-Navy lawmakers from other states.

England and Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Vern Clark were questioned by Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, who said he and ranking member Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, were concerned about the shrinking Navy fleet.

Stevens asked if they would be disturbed if Congress orders them to retain the Kennedy.

"Yes sir, we would be terribly disturbed to keep Kennedy where it is," England replied, saying that would be "expensive for us and it's a marginal capability."

England then added that the money to operate the Kennedy and put it through a long and expensive overhaul had been dropped from the 2006 budget. If forced to keep it on active duty, "we would need to take the money from elsewhere," he said.

Clark added although the Navy planned to keep its nuclear-powered carriers operational for 50 years, the 38-year-old Kennedy, which is not nuclear-powered, should be retired because it had never been modernized.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: usn; ussjohnfkennedy

1 posted on 03/18/2005 6:15:17 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat
Sell it to Taiwan
2 posted on 03/18/2005 6:16:10 AM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: taxcontrol

Or Japan ;)


3 posted on 03/18/2005 6:17:42 AM PST by ruiner
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To: robowombat
I say sell it to the FReepers at a discount.

Rechristen it the USS Free Republic or USS James C. Robinson.

Uncle Teddy would explode like Mr. Creosote!

4 posted on 03/18/2005 6:28:54 AM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: benjaminjjones
Rechristen it the USS Free Republic or USS James C. Robinson.

BRILLIANT idea! I second it!

Uncle Teddy would explode like Mr. Creosote!


OK, so we'll rename it the 'USS Kopechne, and THIS time, Senator Chappaquiddick can plan on going down WITH the ship, as he should have in 1969.

Note to EPA: allot 8 billion dollars for toxic waste cleanup after Fat Teddy dissolves in the water, releasing untold countless tons of toxins, alcohol based poisons, and coagulated fat cells.
5 posted on 03/18/2005 6:43:58 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: taxcontrol; ruiner

India or BanglaDesh more likely


6 posted on 03/18/2005 6:45:24 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Conservatives wish to preserve existing evils. Liberals want to replace them with new ones)
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To: robowombat

For the life of me I cannot understand why the LLL is so upset by the Navy's action. You would think the Navy was killing someone's child. And think about it ... it's not very likely that JFK would be a democRAT in today's world. He would find himself more aligned with today's right than today's left.


7 posted on 03/18/2005 6:48:19 AM PST by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported by muslims everywhere.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Brazil wouldn't be such a bad choice given Chavez acting up and all.


8 posted on 03/18/2005 6:50:28 AM PST by ruiner
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To: robowombat
The USS Kennedy was actually nicknamed the Love Boat due to the huge amount of female shipmates who became pregnant.

How fitting for a ship named the Kennedy!

9 posted on 03/18/2005 6:52:41 AM PST by Radioactive
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To: ruiner
Brazil wouldn't be such a bad choice given Chavez acting up and all.

Considering their government is practically as left as Chavez, Brazil would be a horrible choice.
10 posted on 03/18/2005 6:55:40 AM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: ByteMercenary
You would think the Navy was killing someone's child.

It's worse: they are taking away Mayport, Florida's gravy train.

11 posted on 03/18/2005 7:01:33 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: ruiner
or great britain.
12 posted on 03/18/2005 7:02:38 AM PST by smonk
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To: Radioactive
---The USS Kennedy was actually nicknamed the Love Boat due to the huge amount of female shipmates who became pregnant.---

it was also believed to be bad luck -- much misery followed the JFK during her voyages -- and sailors are a superstitious bunch anyway.

13 posted on 03/18/2005 7:04:31 AM PST by smonk
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To: robowombat

Send it to India. It's got to be better than any French or Soviet model they've been promised.


14 posted on 03/18/2005 7:04:49 AM PST by sevry
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To: sevry
Send it to India

They do have experience in handling old carriers

15 posted on 03/18/2005 7:15:27 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Conservatives wish to preserve existing evils. Liberals want to replace them with new ones)
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To: Radioactive

Actually, during the first Gulf War, the USS Acadia (AO tender), was nicknamed the love boat. The ship when on station in the Persian Gulf, and roughly 25-30% of the females came back several months pregnant. They were gone over six months, or so, IIRC.


16 posted on 03/18/2005 7:48:21 AM PST by Ro_Thunder (Lt.Col. Myles Miyamasu -"These guys really make us work to kill them, but in the end, they're dead.")
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To: Oztrich Boy

Saw a documentary about those Indian ship salvages (like in the pic). They full steam that sucker into shore at high tide and from the air it looks like an ant attack at low tide. Single file coming an going. Awesome spectacle.


17 posted on 03/18/2005 7:55:30 AM PST by myheroesareDeadandRegistered (Ann Coulter/ Mark Levin tag team in '08)
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To: robowombat
1. The problem is that this would leave us with only 11 carriers.
I think that we are stretched thin operating 12. 4 normally operational with a surge of 6 to 7. We need one in the Northern Pacific, 1 in the Southern Pacific, 1 in the Indian Ocean, and 1 in the Atlantic or Mediteranian.
Given our problems with Iran, North Korea, and China, we should probably be increasing our carrier force.
2. The Kittyhawk and the JFK are the last conventional carriers. The Japanese do not want a nuclear carrier based on their territory.
18 posted on 03/21/2005 7:33:25 PM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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