Posted on 03/17/2005 9:58:21 PM PST by JeffMBattle
Per front page of Drudge
**Exclusive Fri Mar 18 2005 00:50:07 ET** The Chairman of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pension (HELP) Committee, Mike Enzi (R-Wyoming) has requested Terri Schiavo to testify before his congressional committee, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. In so doing it triggers legal or statutory protections for the witness, among those protections is that nothing can be done to cause harm or death to this individual.
I'm learning that there is a lot of that iceberg under the surface.
Here is my rant from this evening I write one just about every night, over this exasperating, frustrating case. I included links to all information that is important for people to be clear on, about Terri's case.
You'd think they'd get the message with the Florida legislature, the United Stated Congress, the President of the United States and even Mel Gibson, coming out in favor of Terri living.
Everyone keep praying.
P.S. A message to the democrat party:
You would do well to remember that many democrat voters are disabled. They are similar to the senior population in supporting your party unfortunately. I'm sure you don't want to lose their votes, so you better stop blocking efforts to help Terri.
This case is not about "right to die" and it's not about "republicans or democrats- Greer is a Republican. It's about a disabled woman who has been denied justice, and sentenced to death by starvation/dehydration, based solely on hearsay evidence, if she was a killer or other criminal, you would be screaming from the rooftops for this to be stopped.
Oh Dear Jesus, this is good news! What a clever idea!
Greer is a mental case..of COURSE he'd try to buck the feds! and I'd love to see him get his comeuppance!
I was wondering if there was a statute of limitations on attempted murder in this country.
This could turn out to be interesting, in that if a full investigation is ever undertaken, certain people may have to answer for their actions...
He needs to apologize to all of humanity for the way he's treated Terri and her mom and dad. This is the biggest case of gross injustice I've ever seem in my life.
So? Think anyone here cares? If you're looking for conservatives and the rule of law, you're on the wrong thread. This is a Feelings Only thread. Sorry.
The Lord is Terri's Shepherd --- That's Relationship !!!
She shall not want --- That's Supply !!!
He maketh her to lie down in green pastures --- That's Rest !!!
He leadeth her beside the still waters --- That's Refreshment !!!
He restoreth her soul --- That's Healing !!!
He leadeth her in the paths of righteousness --- That's Guidance !!!
For His name sake --- That's Purpose !!!
Yea, though Terri walk through the valley of the shadow of death --- That's Testing !!!
She will fear no evil --- That's Protection !!!
For Thou art with her --- That's Faithfulness !!!
Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort her --- That's Discipline !!!
Thou preparest a table before Terri in the presence of her enemies--- That's Hope !!!
Thou annointest her head with oil --- That's Consecration !!!
Her cup runneth over --- That's Abundance !!!
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow Terri all the days of her life --- That's Blessing !!!
And she will dwell in the house of the Lord --- That's Security!!!
Forever --- That's Eternity !!!
Congressional Subpoena --- That's Deliverance !!!
Face it Doggie ---- The Lord is crazy about Terri !!!
Otherwise --- Why else would He continuously deliver her from
the evil hands of her attempted murderers ???
The Lord is Terri's Shepherd --- That's Relationship !!!
She shall not want --- That's Supply !!!
He maketh her to lie down in green pastures --- That's Rest !!!
He leadeth her beside the still waters --- That's Refreshment !!!
He restoreth her soul --- That's Healing !!!
He leadeth her in the paths of righteousness --- That's Guidance !!!
For His name sake --- That's Purpose !!!
Yea, though Terri walk through the valley of the shadow of death --- That's Testing !!!
She will fear no evil --- That's Protection !!!
For Thou art with her --- That's Faithfulness !!!
Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort her --- That's Discipline !!!
Thou preparest a table before Terri in the presence of her enemies--- That's Hope !!!
Thou annointest her head with oil --- That's Consecration !!!
Her cup runneth over --- That's Abundance !!!
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow Terri all the days of her life --- That's Blessing !!!
And she will dwell in the house of the Lord --- That's Security!!!
Forever --- That's Eternity !!!
Congressional Subpoena --- That's Deliverance !!!
Face it ---- The Lord is crazy about Terri !!!
Otherwise --- Why else would He continuously deliver her from
the evil hands of her attempted murderers ???
Lord Jesus, we thank you for what you are doing. We praise you because you are God and you are in control. We know you've heard our prayers, and we continue to lift them up to you. We ask you to enlighten those on this board and elsewhere who do not understand the situation and we pray that you will open their eyes and bless them with your understanding. We praise you, we thank you, we love you, and we are so grateful. Shall not the Judge of all the earth do that which is right? Oh Lord...that you that you love us as you do. In Jesus name, amen.
After speaking, tonight 3-17-05 this is the
approved message and target list to release the full force of the grass
roots. Senators that are too far gone to bother with are not included.
All these Senators voted NO and are able to be influenced. Focus is going
to do their full list of about 700,000 emails. The Florida Senate will meet
all day on Friday 3-18-05. Thanks, John
THE MESSAGE: "Change your vote and Save Terri"
Phone calls first preference
Emails second preference
Senator J.D. Alexander, Majority Whip
Phone: (850) 487-5044
E-mail: alexander.jd.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Nancy Argenziano
Phone: (850) 487-5017
E-mail: argenziano.nancy.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Dave Aronberg
Phone: (850) 487-5356
E-mail: aronberg.dave.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Mike Bennett
Phone: (850) 487-5078
E-mail: bennett.mike.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Larcenia Bullard
Phone: (850) 487-5127
E-mail: bullard.larcenia.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Walter "Skip" Campbell
Phone: (850) 487-5094
E-mail: campbell.walter.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Lisa Carlton
Phone: (850) 487-5081
E-mail: carlton.lisa.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Paula Dockery
Phone: (850) 487-5040
E-mail: dockery.paula.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Dennis Jones
Phone: (850) 487-5065
E-mail: jones.dennis.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Jim King
Phone: (850) 487-5030
E-mail: king.james.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Dave Aronberg
Phone: (850) 487-5356
E-mail: aronberg.dave.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Evelyn J. Lynn
Phone: (850) 487-5033
E-mail: lynn.evelyn.web@flsenate.gov
Senator Burt L. Saunders
Phone: (850) 487-5124
E-mail: saunders.burt.web@flsenate.gov
He's never heard of the ignorant masses of a duped media.
"the difficult part of the job is that you can't defend yourself"
There is no defense for the suffering you have inflicted on a helpless disabled woman and her family. You have never once acted to help Terri, not once, You have never once acted on the side of life. You have been all about death.
Terri's family, her attorney, her brother, sister, mom, dad go and visit here everyday, they see she smiles, follows them with her eyes, responds to them, they KNOW that she is not in a persistent vegetative state. They have doctors, neurologists who state just from photo's that she appears to NOT be PVS, and at the very least should be tested again. But you DENY the tests. Advances have been made in technology, but you deny. You have sent police to block her priest from giving her Last Rites communion. You have allowed her husband to keep her isolated, and deny her basic care. Her parents have been prevented from seeing THEIR OWN DAUGHTER, THEIR OWN LITTLE GIRL, THAT THEY RAISED FROM A BABY, because of you.
Here she is disabled, and you have denied them visitation with her, you let her adulterous husband bully and threaten them. Terri has had to suffer through untreated infections i.e. Urinary Tract infections, painful, because of you. Her family has gotten in trouble and threatened with denied visitation for something as simple as trying to play a CD of Terri's music for her. Why won't you let Terri be filmed or have visitors or go out in the sunshine? Even death row inmates get to go outside, but not Terri.
Evidence has been presented that Terri's marriage was in trouble before the collapse, she wanted a divorce, but you won't schedule a hearing about whether her husband should still be her guardian.
You made an error in throwing out testimony that Terri did not have a death wish, but again you deny and order her death by a method that couldn't be used on a dog or a serial killer. You expect her parents to just sit there and watch? Do you have children judge? What did you think they were going to do, Terri is their daughter. They have known her for 41 years, many more than the 5 years she was married to her adulterous husband.
You allowed money that was supposed to be for Terri's therapy to go to Felos to facilitate her death.
The only opinion I can have of you, based on your actions, is that you are a monster.
I hope that when you are infirm, that you will be treated with the same "mercy" that you have shown Terri and her family.
You have not "changed your relationship" with your church. You have turned away from God and chosen the path of darkness. I pray for your immortal soul that you turn back from this path and seek the Light of the Lord. Amen
If George Greer is a monster. A dispicable, evil monster, then lets hear what you can call the judges on Florida's second district court? What do you call Judge David Demers of the Sixth Judicial Circuit? What do you call Dr. Jay Wolfson who was appointed 'guardian ad litem' by 6th circuit at the request of Gov Bush to double check facts in case?
Don't you just hate 'facts'? It's more fun to just make them up and call everyone evil monsters and dispicable.
http://www.2dca.org/opinion/March%2016,%202005/2D05-968.pdf
IF FACTS ABOUT THE CASE or FLORIDA LAW BOTHER YOU, DO NOT PROCEED:
16 MAR 2005: SECOND DISTRICT COURT: As a result of an earlier motion for relief from judgment, we required the trial court to reconfirm that medical science offered no meaningful treatment for her condition. The trial court decided not only to reconfirm that issue but also to review its earlier decision that Mrs. Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state. Following another extensive hearing at which many highly qualified physicians testified, the trial court denied the motion for relief from judgment. This court affirmed that decision.
The trial court's decision does not give Mrs. Schiavo's legal guardian the option of leaving the life-prolonging procedures in place. No matter who her guardian is, the guardian is required to obey the court order because the court, and not the guardian, has determined the decision that Mrs. Schiavo herself would make.
The legal process utilized by the trial court in this case is not new. Long before Mrs. Schiavo suffered her heart attack2 in February 1990, the Supreme Court of Florida had already determined that the express right of privacy in article I, section 23, of the Florida Constitution gave both competent and incompetent persons the right to forego life-prolonging procedures. In Corbett, this court interpreted this constitutional protection to apply not only to persons who have the foresight and resources to prepare a living will, but also to those whose wishes have not been reduced to writing. Earlier, in Barry, the right had been recognized by this court for a child who could not have prepared a written directive.
Both the Supreme Court of Florida and this court have concluded that the decision to "terminate artificial life supports is a decision that normally should be made in the patient-doctor-family relationship." We have, however, emphasized that the courts remain open to make these decisions under the Florida Constitution when family members cannot agree or when a guardian believes that it would be more appropriate for a neutral judge to make the decision. As we explained in Schiavo I, this is the approach that Mr. Schiavo, in his capacity as legal guardian of his wife, selected in light of the bitter conflict within this family.
Following the exhaustion of all appellate review of both the final judgment that was entered in February 2000 and the order denying the subsequent motion for relief from judgment, the trial court ordered that, on October 15, 2003, the hospice facility must cease supplying nutrition and hydration through Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube. The hospice facility obeyed this order. On October 21, 2003, the legislature enacted chapter 2003-418, and the Governor signed the act into law. Pursuant to this new act, the Governor ordered a stay, which both this court and the trial court honored. Thus, the hospice facility restored the supply of nutrition and hydration through the feeding tube. Thereafter, the supreme court unanimously held that chapter 2003-418 was unconstitutional as a violation of the separation of powers under the Florida Constitution. Before chapter 2003-418 was held unconstitutional, the Governor requested the Chief Judge of the Sixth Judicial Circuit to appoint a special guardian ad litem for Mrs. Schiavo. Chief Judge David Demers honored that request and appointed a guardian ad litem. The guardian, Dr. Jay Wolfson, has degrees in both law and public health. He submitted a lengthy report to both the court and the Governor. In his summary, Dr. Wolfson stated, in part:
The [guardian ad litem] concludes that the trier of fact and the evidence that served as the basis for the decisions regarding Theresa Schiavo were firmly grounded within Florida statutory and case law, which clearly and unequivocally provide for the removal of artificial nutrition in cases of persistent vegetative states, where there is no advance directive, through substituted/proxy judgment of the guardian and/or the court as guardian, and with the use of evidence regarding the medical condition and the intent of the parties that was deemed, by the trier of fact to be clear and convincing.
…….. both Mr. Schiavo and the Schindlers were allowed to present evidence to the trial court as if each were her guardian. Id. The trial court then made its decision pursuant to law and based upon a heightened standard of proof. That decision has been subject to appeals and postjudgment scrutiny of all varieties, and it remains a valid judgment pursuant to the laws and the constitution of this state.
Not only has Mrs. Schiavo's case been given due process, but few, if any, similar cases have ever been afforded this heightened level of process.
REPEAT: Not only has Mrs. Schiavo's case been given due process, but few, if any, similar cases have ever been afforded this heightened level of process.
We note that the case law generally allows a party to file only one motion for relief under rule 1.540(b). See Berman, supra 540.5(b). Indeed, courts have taken the position that they lack authority "to entertain a second motion for relief from judgment which attempts to relitigate matters settled by a prior order denying relief." Because of the nature of this case, neither the trial court nor this court has enforced these general rules. The Schindlers have filed numerous motions, but they have failed to present any lawful basis for relief from judgment.
Dr. Wolfson, the guardian who was appointed at the request of the Governor, visited Mrs. Schiavo many times in 2003. He was unable to independently observe any "consistent, repetitive, intentional, reproducible interactive and aware activities." His report does not challenge the now well-established medical diagnosis that Mrs. Schiavo's movements are merely reflexive. As he explained: "This is the confusing thing for the lay person about persistent vegetative states."
Our previous statements on the matter apply with undiminished relevancy in this appeal:
The judges on this panel are called upon to make a collective, objective decision concerning a question of law. Each of us, however, has our own family, our own loved ones, our own children. From our review of the videotapes of Mrs. Schiavo, despite the irrefutable evidence that her cerebral cortex has sustained the most severe of irreparable injuries, we understand why a parent who had raised and nurtured a child from conception would hold out hope that some level of cognitive function remained. If Mrs. Schiavo were our own daughter, we could not but hold to such a faith.
But in the end, this case is not about the aspirations that loving parents have for their children. It is about Theresa Schiavo's right to make her own decision, independent of her parents and independent of her husband. In circumstances such as these, when families cannot agree, the law has opened the doors of the circuit courts to permit trial judges to serve as surrogates or proxies to make decisions about life prolonging procedures. It is the trial judge's duty not to make the decision that the judge would make for himself or herself or for a loved one. Instead, the trial judge must make a decision that the clear and convincing evidence shows the ward would have made for herself. It is a thankless task, and one to be undertaken with care, objectivity, and a cautious legal standard designed to promote the value of life.
We are well aware that many people around the world disagree with the trial court's decision. However, when he became a judge, the trial court judge took an oath, required by the Florida Constitution, to obey the rule of law and the constitution of this state. The trial judge followed and obeyed the law as set out by the precedent of the Supreme Court of Florida and by the general laws adopted by the Legislature. The trial judge made this most difficult decision after fully considering the evidence and applying a heightened standard of proof that is designed to protect society's interest in sustaining life.
Also -- Terrir is still of an age eligible for militia duty, and therefore her fitness to serve in the militia, or anyone in her condition, is of obvious concern to a Congress operating under the strictest of original intent.
That's malarky mayo spread on malarky slices placed on malarky bread.
Why? The Grand and Magnificent evidense is hearsay of the worse sort, and fully countered by other hearsay which the Judge ignored. Why did the Judge ignore it? Because HE made a mistake in what happened when. The Judge's mistake: the year Quinlan died. Yet all the Grand and Magificant due process you so lordily enclaimate was not all capable -- did not have the SANITY, the compus mentus -- that allowed it to discount even the weakest and most disreputable of hearsay evidence.
Great news this morning. I hope it "takes".
The US Congress must send a strong team of Federal Marshalls to Florida to take Terri into their protective custody and to insure no foul play and vile schemes take place, and do so pronto. JMO.
The ACLU hard are work
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