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Indonesia ousts Christian groups
The Washington Times ^ | 03-17-05 | Sharon Behn

Posted on 03/17/2005 11:46:30 AM PST by JZelle

Christian groups and some other private relief agencies are being asked to halt their work in the tsunami-ravaged Indonesian province of Aceh and leave the area by March 26, Indonesia's defense minister said yesterday. The decision likely will target Western and smaller church groups as the government moves to tighten control over reconstruction work in Aceh, the home of a decades-old separatist insurgency. "We want each of the relief agencies to be transparent in their programs: Some of them are not clear about their mandates," said Juwono Sudarsono during an interview in a Washington hotel.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aceh; christian; christians; gratitude; humanitarianrelief; indonesia; muslim; tsunami
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1 posted on 03/17/2005 11:46:32 AM PST by JZelle
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To: JZelle

Somebody remind me why we went to help these people.


2 posted on 03/17/2005 11:47:51 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: JZelle; sgtbono2002

We went to help the people. What you're reading about are the officials in their government who are corrupted, dishonest, SOB's.

Aid that is flowing in via the U.S. and private aid groups are going directly to the people. There is no chance for graft and corruption in such efficient operations.

What the Indonesian officials want to do is set themselves up as the middle man, so they can funnel resources into their own personal pockets. The people are probably a hell of a lot more grateful for the private aid and don't look forward to the day when their government takes that over.


3 posted on 03/17/2005 11:51:58 AM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: sgtbono2002

"Somebody remind me why we went to help these people."


Good question.

Personally, other than the money sent by the gov't for aid(my tax dollars), I didn't give a penny to these ungrateful Muslims.

After 9-11 and the fiasco of United Way keeping 50% of donations for non-charitable uses, I'm leery of all charities these days.


4 posted on 03/17/2005 11:51:58 AM PST by Blzbba (Don't hate the player - hate the game!)
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To: JZelle

Typically Islamic; bite the hand that feeds you especially if it is a Christian hand. This religion (although peaceful) has no place in a non-Muslim culture.


5 posted on 03/17/2005 11:52:37 AM PST by auburntiger
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To: JZelle
"We want each of the relief agencies to be transparent in their programs: Some of them are not clear about their mandates," said Juwono Sudarsono during an interview in a Washington hotel.

Translation: "We're terrified they might mention 'GOD' and thus completely subvert our faithful terrorist suppporters to Christianity.

How weak. I read the Qu'ran and hear about how wonderful Allah is all the time, yet am no closer to converting to Islam.

7 posted on 03/17/2005 11:56:50 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: JZelle
1) The Christian-based groups will make the government look bad.

2) The Christian-based groups will make the Muslims look bad.

8 posted on 03/17/2005 11:58:11 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: JZelle
I hope some read the article.

Aceh province is in all practical respects in rebellion and a war zone.

9 posted on 03/17/2005 12:04:34 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Bosco

The Christian groups already made the Muslims look bad when they worked to help survivors while drooling Islamists in bin Laden T shirts ogled the dead. Te Indonesian government is angry that the peasants have been thinking more kindly toward the evil US. They can't have that.


10 posted on 03/17/2005 12:06:07 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: JZelle

Seriously, do Muslims ever help each other or is that forbidden by the false prophet?


11 posted on 03/17/2005 12:15:26 PM PST by Nashphil
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To: coconutt2000
What the Indonesian officials want to do is set themselves up as the middle man, so they can funnel resources into their own personal pockets.

I've heard this as well from other sources. People on the ground report that even though much money is being sent none of it is reaching the people in need.

Then some ignorant atheist will ask in a haughty tone, "Why does God allow this suffering?"
As if the problem of suffering here should be laid at the feet of a non-existing God when these leaders are so obviously corrupt.

12 posted on 03/17/2005 12:47:08 PM PST by ThirstyMan (Why is it, all the dead vote for Democrats?)
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To: ThirstyMan
Then some ignorant atheist will ask in a haughty tone, "Why does God allow this suffering?"

The answer to the ignorant would be, "Perhaps the same reason God lets you go on living."

Blaming the actions of men on God is facetious. The real question is why do we as a people permit such blatant corruption and evil to cause and extend such suffering.

There is Law and there is Natural Law. We write the Law based on our best understanding of the Natural Law, and do our best to bring about justice. The Law is not sacred, nor holy, nor infallible, and neither is our understanding.

Such was the wisdom of the Founding Fathers when they wrote our Constitution. They were humble enough to declare that their understanding of the Natural Law was not infallible, and that their descendants may need to adapt and adjust the Law to new understandings.

13 posted on 03/17/2005 2:01:29 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Blzbba
"Somebody remind me why we went to help these people." Because our spineless, politicians still think that if we loved the Muslims, they will be good to us. It is borderline retardation. We helped these ungrateful people in Afghanistan against Russia, we then helped them again in Bosnia/Kosovo against the Christian Serbs, we then helped them again in Kuwait, in Somalia, in Macedonia, in Egypt,.....

The stupid advisers in Washington need to retire.

14 posted on 03/17/2005 2:09:43 PM PST by conservlib
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