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Putin May Stay Beyond 2008
The Moscow Times. ^ | March 17, 2005 | Nabi Abdullaev

Posted on 03/17/2005 9:31:23 AM PST by Lukasz

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To: Lukasz
".....he considers it his duty to select a successor for president....."

Huh?

Sounds to me like he hasn't shaken that Totalitarian, Anti-Democratic mind-set as of yet.

21 posted on 03/17/2005 11:27:17 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: A. Pole
No offense Mr A. Pole, but I hope that you will never get a Polish citizenship.
22 posted on 03/17/2005 11:34:41 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Lukasz
Only if they change the constitution.

Like for example Lukashenko? Really nice and very democratic.

Was the change of US Constitution after FDR undemocratic (removing the ability for electing President the more than two times)? If it was than it can be democratically reversed.

23 posted on 03/17/2005 11:58:17 AM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: A. Pole
Was the change of US Constitution after FDR undemocratic (removing the ability for electing President the more than two times)? If it was than it can be democratically reversed.

It was decision in the right direction, which prevented any kind of dictatorship in US. If Putin would change the constitution like article suggesting, it would be practically the end of illusions about democracy in Russia.
24 posted on 03/17/2005 12:13:54 PM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: Lukasz
It was decision in the right direction, which prevented any kind of dictatorship in US. If Putin would change the constitution like article suggesting, it would be practically the end of illusions about democracy in Russia.

I see that the world is very simple for you.

25 posted on 03/17/2005 12:45:19 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: A. Pole
I see that the world is very simple for you.

Some things are obvious. But sometimes I’m very surprised, for example when I read today that Russia will join China to train invasion to Taiwan. :-)
26 posted on 03/17/2005 12:56:34 PM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: Lukasz
No, it's the Russian way of developing democracy.

Just like in that famous Ford's saying - you can buy a car in any color, provided it's black.

So - you can elect any president - provided it's Vladimir Putin.
27 posted on 03/17/2005 2:18:39 PM PST by lizol
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To: A. Pole
A regent, a king, an emperor, a tzar, a dictator, a chieftain - whatever to call such a position.

But do we really have to call such a system democracy anymore?
28 posted on 03/17/2005 2:21:02 PM PST by lizol
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To: Lukasz
Some things are obvious. But sometimes I’m very surprised, for example when I read today that Russia will join China to train invasion to Taiwan. :-)

Training with another country has little if anything to do with an invasion. Those types of training excercises are done all the time between various countries.
29 posted on 03/17/2005 2:25:56 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: lizol
A regent, a king, an emperor, a tzar, a dictator, a chieftain - whatever to call such a position.

There are big differences between these positions. You view so simplistic that it is completely false.

But do we really have to call such a system democracy anymore?

So long as Russia has elections for the executive and legislative branches according to the French model, it is a representative republic by the definition. If Russia moves toward Spanish model it will be a constitutional monarchy. Before the democratic revolution of 1917 (the one which led to disaster and Bolshevik coup d'etat) Russia had mixed system of traditional and constitutional monarchy.

30 posted on 03/17/2005 3:01:52 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: GarySpFc
Those types of training excercises are done all the time between various countries.

Yes, but Russia according to some is not allowed to have any exercises or even to have an army. Russia is expected by them to rollover and die.

31 posted on 03/17/2005 3:04:21 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: A. Pole

Aha, and Rome under Julius Caesar was a republic too. By name.


32 posted on 03/17/2005 4:03:13 PM PST by lizol
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To: lizol
Aha, and Rome under Julius Caesar was a republic too. By name.

The main difference is that Rome was a republic for several centuries while Russia was a traditional monarchy. Strong presidency or strong central government in a society with monarchical traditions is a stabilizing factor. Better analogy is between USA and Rome.

Julius Caesar acquired the monarchical power in the moment when he was able to make start war on his own. This is what makes the key difference between the republic/constitutional monarchy and autocracy. Power to start the war is a prerogative of a true king and it lead to all other powers sooner or later.

That is why the Founding Fathers gave the power of war-making to the Congress and one will be able to see when American Republic transforms into the Empire - it will be when Congress will abdicate its war making autority.

33 posted on 03/17/2005 4:28:38 PM PST by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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34 posted on 03/17/2005 6:35:31 PM PST by anonymoussierra (Lux Mea Christus!!!"Totus tuus" Quo Vadis Domine?Thank you)
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To: Lukasz

Putin is the next Stalin and won't be leaving until he is dead.


35 posted on 03/17/2005 6:37:04 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: anonymoussierra
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36 posted on 03/18/2005 2:25:13 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: GarySpFc
Training with another country has little if anything to do with an invasion. Those types of training excercises are done all the time between various countries.

I know, Chino-Russian military trainings it is absolutely normal thing and means nothing special. Although I don’t remember when last time Polish army trained with communist regimes. How about US, American troops often working with commies?
37 posted on 03/18/2005 3:39:54 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: Lukasz; jb6
I know, Chino-Russian military trainings it is absolutely normal thing and means nothing special. Although I don’t remember when last time Polish army trained with communist regimes. How about US, American troops often working with commies?

I know this is hard for you to comprehend, but if you had a country with over a billion people on your border eying unoccupied areas of Poland, then you might do everything in your power to normalize relations. Oh, I forgot Poles are determined to surrender their sovereignty to the European Union and are now singing the Brussels mantra.
38 posted on 03/18/2005 7:45:27 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GarySpFc
I know this is hard for you to comprehend, but if you had a country with over a billion people on your border eying unoccupied areas of Poland, then you might do everything in your power to normalize relations.

Gary you are fooling yourself if you think that there is another option of normalization of the relation with China than supporting democracy in china.

Oh, I forgot Poles are determined to surrender their sovereignty to the European Union and are now singing the Brussels mantra.

Funny since Berlin and Paris has little romance with Putin and China. Btw don’t miss axis of weasels summit in Paris.
39 posted on 03/18/2005 7:55:42 AM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: GarySpFc
And don't forget, the government in Poland is the communist regime.
40 posted on 03/18/2005 8:23:21 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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