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Quiet British Bike Seeks Added Vroom
Planet Ark ^ | March 17, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 03/17/2005 1:53:38 AM PST by MadIvan

LONDON - Environmentally minded British motorcycle engineers have produced a zero-emission bike that ticks all the right boxes except one - it's too quiet.

So quiet in fact that its designers are looking to introduce artificial vroom to keep potential customers happy.

Powered by a high pressure hydrogen fuel cell, the Emissions Neutral Vehicle (ENV) produces the equivalent noise of a personal computer fan belt.

Not only is that distinctly wimpish in the eyes of many bikers, it could also be dangerous.

Makers Intelligent Energy are looking at ways to produce an artificial engine noise that will alert people to its presence, making sure the machine is not silent and deadly.

"We will consider that," said Nick Talbot, the project leader at Seymourpowell, who were hired by Intelligent Energy to design a bike to their brief.

The British designed and built bike, which has no gears, can reach speeds of 50 miles per hour.

Motorcycle enthusiasts have welcomed the green innovation but say some bikers like the roar of an engine and the thrill of going fast.

"It fits the definition of a motorcycle, but not as we know it," said Jeff Stone, a spokesman for the British Motorcycle Federation.

"The motorcycle is a primitive thing and it appeals to the inner person. The excitement and exhilaration of a bike is why people ride them."

Stone, however, believes that the "soft and cuddly" green bike could be useful in city traffic.

The bike's briefcase-sized fuel cell needs to be topped up every 100 miles and so far there is only one station in Britain that supplies the type of hydrogen required.

But its makers believe that will change.

"The whole point of the project is to say the technology is here, it works, so now put the infrastructure up," said Talbot.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: autoshop; bike; energy; environment; hydrogen; motorcycles; transportation; vroom
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To: MadIvan
All joking aside, this might be a useful gadget if the fuel supply problem can be solved. IMHO, most modern bikes are overweight and overpowered (my basic rule of thumb is "don't ride a bike that's too heavy to pick up if you drop it"). The 50MPH top speed might not be that much of a problem if the electric motor has enough torque to maintain it uphill or against the wind.
61 posted on 03/17/2005 6:05:12 AM PST by Grut
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To: 230FMJ; 506trooper; 68 grunt; AdamSelene235; angry elephant; archy; Askel5; baddog1; basil; ...
Makers Intelligent Energy are looking at ways to produce an artificial engine noise that will alert people to its presence, making sure the machine is not silent and deadly.

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62 posted on 03/17/2005 6:05:29 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: P8riot

"Baseball cards in the spokes"

Bingo. It looks like a bicycle.


63 posted on 03/17/2005 6:12:39 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: MadIvan
".....but say some bikers like the roar of an engine and the thrill of going fast."

Ya think?

64 posted on 03/17/2005 6:17:16 AM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: Straight Vermonter
by the reaction of steam with hot coke

That would be coal. Use coal to make coke and to heat up the coke and the steam and bypass oil. We have tons of coal. Tons and tons of coal. Tons and tons and tons of coal...

65 posted on 03/17/2005 6:26:55 AM PST by green iguana
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To: martin_fierro; MadIvan

I guess the old standby, a playing card clacking in the spokes, wouldn't be a viable option.


66 posted on 03/17/2005 6:33:12 AM PST by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: ChefKeith
Just WHAT kind of PC's do Y'all use over there on the other side of the pond anyway?

Hard drives powered by a Morris Mini engine?
67 posted on 03/17/2005 6:35:39 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Fresh Wind

Lucas electrics? NOOOOOOOO!


68 posted on 03/17/2005 6:37:46 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: MadIvan

4,500 British Pound = 8,671.50 US Dollar
For a moped?


69 posted on 03/17/2005 6:40:18 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: MadIvan
I actually don't care about greenhouse gases so much as oil dependance.

Hydrogen without oil?

Steam reforming converts methane (and other hydrocarbons in natural gas) into hydrogen and carbon monoxide by reaction with steam over a nickel catalyst.
Electrolysis uses electrical current to split water into hydrogen at the cathode (+) and oxygen at the anode (-) Steam electrolysis (a variation on conventional electrolysis) uses heat, instead of electricity, to provide some of the energy needed to split water, making the process more energy efficient.
Thermochemical water splitting uses chemicals and heat in multiple steps to split water into its component parts
All the common methods need a power source that requires electricity or heat source. There are experimental methods using bacteria, green plants or photovoltic cells – but commercial development is far in the future.

70 posted on 03/17/2005 6:47:55 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: glock rocks

rotf....


71 posted on 03/17/2005 8:03:04 AM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: MadIvan

A clothesline clip with a playing card makes a cool noise. Maybe they could make that standard.


72 posted on 03/17/2005 8:33:30 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Grut
All joking aside, this might be a useful gadget if the fuel supply problem can be solved. IMHO, most modern bikes are overweight and overpowered....

Fitting one of the engine/motor power packs to both the front and rear wheels would seem to be a reasonable starting place....

Looks like they swiped a few of the styling cues for the thing, though. And not from the state-of-the-art.


73 posted on 03/17/2005 12:29:49 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: MadIvan
Forget that wimpy scooter.

This:

is a motorcycle.

74 posted on 03/17/2005 12:34:24 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: MadIvan

Right concept but if they were really onto something they would not be worrying about noise.

It is too slow.
It is too distance limited.

A motorcycle should have the POTENTIAL of 100mph and the POTENTIAL of being owner modified for performance.

I think whoever designed it was think off road not on road. That is easily corrected.


75 posted on 03/17/2005 1:12:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
A motorcycle should have the POTENTIAL of 100mph

Harley Davidsons have the potential of going 100mph... if they are in the bed of a pickup truck. :)

76 posted on 03/17/2005 1:29:27 PM PST by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: MadIvan

Sounds perfect for spec ops


77 posted on 03/17/2005 1:30:52 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Daniel Ramsey
"This is perfect for SAS and SEALs that need "stealth" for covert land transportation." Yeah right I bet the electronics are made by Lucas. Would you trust your life with it?
78 posted on 03/17/2005 1:39:31 PM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: killjoy

Don't ride much do you.


79 posted on 03/17/2005 2:28:23 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Don't ride much do you.

About 14,000 miles in 2004. How about you?

80 posted on 03/17/2005 2:29:30 PM PST by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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