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Ann's latest was up early today! I'm off to fulfill the rules for a moment, but enjoy the column in the meantime.
1 posted on 03/16/2005 3:57:25 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy
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I wonder if that's linear? Still, I'd trust Ann to put on the uniform. I think she could manage a bit of 'intermediate force' when required.

68 posted on 03/16/2005 4:53:03 PM PST by sevry
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Rocking with Ann on Wednesday evening! Thanks for the post!


74 posted on 03/16/2005 4:59:51 PM PST by Rummyfan
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Actually the problem has gotten a LOT worse...then we ever dreamed of...

Google the term "Gender Neutral" in the news section and see how many stories are being pushed down our throats.
Gender Neutral BATHROOMS, Welfare, language; some are saying even the Bible needs to be rewritten in a Gender Neutral way - wait that's already been done.

It's unbelievable.
75 posted on 03/16/2005 5:00:10 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (Hard things are put in our way, not to stop us, but to call out our courage and strength.)
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LOL bump


84 posted on 03/16/2005 5:06:35 PM PST by Tribune7
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Read later


86 posted on 03/16/2005 5:08:10 PM PST by TheMom (Govern yourself accordingly.)
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Pretty crappy title, I'll assume she didn't pick it.


88 posted on 03/16/2005 5:10:44 PM PST by ShadowDancer (As for the types of comments I make,sometimes I just, By God,get carried away with my own eloquence.)
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A much-needed article.

Another study I've devised involves asking a woman to open a jar of pickles.

As an aside, here's a tip for when even the man of the house can't open that stubborn pickle jar. Even a little old lady with osteoporosis can make this work. Slap a rubber band, preferably a wide one, around the circumference of the pickle jar (or any jar) lid before attempting to open it. Lids that wouldn't budge will open easily.

90 posted on 03/16/2005 5:15:04 PM PST by GretchenM (Have no fear. Tag line contains no dioxin.)
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In the following paragraphs I'm going to share a first hand experience of the problems with female officers in confrontational situations. It is long, but very supportive of this situation - and I will cite facts.

In February of 1994, I was the manager of a campus bar at the University of Illinois (Cochrane's for all you alum). Just before midnight on that night, a pushy and shoving match started on the dance floor. The situation erupted into an all out brawl with more than 15 men going at it. My staff of bouncers, including soon-to-be NFL players Kevin Hardy and Ken Dilger, got to the dance floor and spent several minutes breaking apart the men.

It took a lot of work and a few choice blows to finally regain control of the situation. At this point, three Champaign (IL) police officers showed up, two male and one female. The officers then ordered my staff to release the men (all 15 of them). The male officers grabbed two of the most violent - there were many of the suspects who were actively struggling to get free. The female cop then came up to a third struggling black male who was about 6'2" and had to weigh at least 220lbs. She demanded that my bouncer release the man. My bouncer told her that he was still fighting and that he will attack another patron if he let's go. Again the officer ordered my bouncer to let go, which he did.

The female officer then pulled out her hand-cuffs and began to cuff the suspect. The man then flung her to the floor and kicked her in the face - with a few choice words. The man, who was subdued by my staff - now went after one of the other fighters and the entire place erupted again. Our staff rushed back into the situation to help the officer. Meanwhile, the male officers saw the female officer was down and bleeding and immediately pepper sprayed the entire dance floor, including our bouncers.

This caused all of the bouncers to let go of all of the brawlers that they had just subdued and a hgue brawl erupted yet again. The two male officers went for the female officer and escorted her to safety outside of hte building - leaving the rest of us blinded by the spray and in the midst of an all out brawl. After two or three minutes, the officer returned with 6-8 additional male officers and began to beat down everyone in the melee, the fighters as well as those of us who were trying to resolve the situation.

Eventually, we were able to get all of the fighters outside of the bar where there were additional officers including female officers. Again, two of the female officers attempted to corral two separate suspects and were thrown to the ground and the suspects escaped.

The bottom line: We had gotten control of the situation, then a female police officer decided that she could handle a much larger and violent man. Maybe she needed to prove something to the other officers or maybe she thought criminals would have respect for a woman, or the badge. Regardless, her actions caused several of my men to be injured and all of my staff and many patrons to be pepper sprayed. The male officers then left a situation to assure her safety, then came back with excessive force against everyone in the vicinity - obviously being protective of their female counterpart.

Conclusion: Women, while probably more capable of talking to suspects who have respect for the law or for women in general, are not right for police work. They can be overpowered by even smaller men AND they create an emotional response from other officers. The male officers may tease their femal counterparts, but they will also go beyond the norms to protect and avenge them - creating many problems and potential abuses.

Not to mention killings in a courtroom.


100 posted on 03/16/2005 5:37:17 PM PST by dannyboy72 (How long will you hold onto the rope when Liberals pull us off the cliff?)
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Another study I've devised involves asking a woman to open a jar of pickles.

LOL! Of course, the judges have some blame in this as well. They don't want the perp to look like a perp in front of the jury. Shackles and lots of court room officiers makes the perp look bad, and we can't have that.

103 posted on 03/16/2005 5:42:15 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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Like a stake in the heart of a Vampire.

Cheers,

knews hound


110 posted on 03/16/2005 5:55:32 PM PST by knews_hound (Out of the NIC ,into the Router, out to the Cloud....Nothing but 'Net)
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This one may give Patty Ireland a stroke!!! Ann Rox!!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighting Male Troops

114 posted on 03/16/2005 6:02:52 PM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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"These aren't unascertainable facts, like Pinch Sulzberger's SAT scores."

Guess Ann wouldn't be doing any work for the NY Times anyway, so no personal risk here. LOL.


116 posted on 03/16/2005 6:11:07 PM PST by Rocky
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I made some of the same comments yesterday, and some people I work with looked at me like I was a space alien, or something. Incredible.......... and Duh!


117 posted on 03/16/2005 6:11:57 PM PST by Maigrey (Prayer Warriors for Malachi Whitlock http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1356532/posts)
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Good article from the supposed "Michael Moore of the right." I'm looking forward to the next time Moore, or anyone on the left that I've seen, puts out anything half as reasonable as this.


118 posted on 03/16/2005 6:16:09 PM PST by MitchellC
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While females are fine in some areas of public safety in others I see hazards. Firefighters have to be able to lift heavy equipment, rescue potentially heavy civilians and do other tasks that require considerable upper body strength. Sorry gals the typical female doesn't have this strength and is often accomodated with reduced physical requirements in selection to comply with equal opportunity. On the contrary I have worked with female paramedics who are well suited to their role.


122 posted on 03/16/2005 6:25:03 PM PST by The Great RJ
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http://www.big-boys.com/articles/firstdayon.html


126 posted on 03/16/2005 6:41:50 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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"Adding black males decreases civilian shootings by police even more"

this too is obvious and I'm suprised no one commented on it . reminds me of an episode of "welcome back Kotter" when Kotter is out sick and the sweathogs make mincemeat of one substitute after another until the next one was a 6' 5" black man. the sweathogs quickly and politely ran to their seats.
128 posted on 03/16/2005 6:45:58 PM PST by avitot
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Another study I've devised involves asking a woman to open a jar of pickles.

Piece of cake,I showed my wife the process, many times over; Turn the jar upside down, give it a good whack on the bottom until you hear a "pop", turn around twist the cap...and "voila" it is open!

The secret is that you have to whack it, really, really hard to pop. It takes some ooomph to do it. Female wise good luck with the tiny hands!

BTW she always is asking me to open all jars no matter what, because she ain't got no ooomph!

130 posted on 03/16/2005 7:21:33 PM PST by danmar ("No person is so grand or wise or perfect as to be the master of another person." Karl Hess)
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Equal Opportunity for Guards (It's not just PC; It's the [Judge-Made-Up] Law)
Duke Law Journal ^ | ukn | John Dwight Ingram


Posted on 03/15/2005 7:57:33 AM PST by wouldntbprudent


III. EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR GUARDS

A. Title VII

Both male and female guards have frequently claimed a right to gender-neutral employment in prisons housing inmates of the opposite gender. Their claims are based on Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits gender discrimination in employment.73 Because there are far more male inmates in prison than there are females, in most states there are only one or two women's facilities.74 If women can only guard women, there will be fewer jobs open to women [SHREIK!!!!!!], and it may well be that none of those that are available will be near the guard's home.[GASP!!!!!!!}]


(Excerpt) Read more at law.duke.edu ...


132 posted on 03/16/2005 7:57:01 PM PST by wouldntbprudent ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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These aren't unascertainable facts, like Pinch Sulzberger's SAT scores.

Rich, Dowd, Pinch, et. al., I have a very funny line to type, ready?

"Paper of Record."

Yep. And I'm the queen of England.

5.56mm

137 posted on 03/16/2005 8:07:55 PM PST by M Kehoe
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