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1 posted on 03/16/2005 1:18:08 PM PST by rightalien
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Despite an unprecedented political spending frenzy, unions lost big in last year's elections.

Bravo!

2 posted on 03/16/2005 1:19:42 PM PST by PRND21
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perhaps if the unions started advocating for their membership rather than being in bed with the liberal democrats, people would see some benifit in joining, eh?


3 posted on 03/16/2005 1:23:11 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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Two thoughts:

Public unions are growing by leaps and bounds. They can't be fired and are rarely laid off. And they have no competition.

When GM or Ford or Cat announces big layoffs, sometimes I think it is a good thing (which is strange) - less union workers = less union dues = less money for marxist candidates. I also affects the cars I buy. The unions are destroying themselves and their companies with their political views...
4 posted on 03/16/2005 1:26:17 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Unions+Democrats=Organized Crime.


6 posted on 03/16/2005 1:28:44 PM PST by MisterRepublican (I DEMAND THAT FOX NEWS GET JENNIFER ECCLESTON BACK FROM NBC!)
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That is one of the beetter headlines I've seen in a while!


7 posted on 03/16/2005 1:31:16 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (“Every time a system is made foolproof - a new class of fool emerges.”)
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Time to pass the NATIONAL RIGHT TO WORK ACT!


8 posted on 03/16/2005 1:33:47 PM PST by donozark (OLD ARAB SAYING: The dog barks but the caravan moves on.)
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My Grandfather was a Wobbly organizer (Workers of the World), but todays unions lost everything they once stood for and will one day have to fight for again in a different generation.

For today they can go to hell and go broke. They are right there with the ACLU imho.


10 posted on 03/16/2005 1:35:13 PM PST by zek157
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I wonder how much money would be saved if government unions were abolished.


12 posted on 03/16/2005 1:39:20 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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The union concept is a fading relic of the last century and needs to wither and die. It fosters shoddy workmanship, goldbricking on the job and unneeded costs to companies and consumers. It weakens our competative position as a nation. Unions and their partners in slime---the ratty sordid demoncraps need to go down in flames!


15 posted on 03/16/2005 1:40:50 PM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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One of the main problems the Unions have is that they are spreading themselves way too thin politically. They take up a number of left wing causes that have nothing to do with their function as a union. This has the effect that:
1) They put much of their effort into issues that won't help them.
2) They lock themselves into supporting only Democrats, eliminating any leverages they may have with Republicans
3) They alienate their workers that might agree with them on issues that directly affect their union, but not on all the other left-wing agenda. If they were narrowly focused, they might actually be able to swing the votes of their member to whichever candidate they endorse.
19 posted on 03/16/2005 1:53:18 PM PST by Moral Hazard (I call the big one Bitey)
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As a union member I can concur with all the posts. Last summer ALPA president Duane Worthe wrote an (surprise) anti-Bush editorial in the union magazine "Airline Pilot." He derided the Bush tax cuts because it would take money from airspace infrastructure improvements. So I'm thinking this moron wants to take money away from our customer (drive down demand) and use it to increase the amount of available flights (increase supply). That's great, just drive down the prices so more airlines can go bankrupt. I don't even bother listening to them anymore. I do enjoy driving to work with my W sticker on my truck though.
20 posted on 03/16/2005 1:53:27 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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One thing everyone overlooks, IMO, is the intimate association between organized crime and organized labor. They’ve traditionally been two sides of the same coin.

It’s always been part of a protection racket and don’t think otherwise.

You own a construction company, great. I can pull a few strings and make sure you get a particular contract for the reasonable sum of $50,000. Once you have it, you just cough up $10,000 each week or you’re going to have labor problems.

I’ll either arrange for them to strike, or I’ll arrange for some other union to set up a strike line they’ll be intimidated into not crossing. Pay up – it’s the cost of doing business.

It’d also be great if those proud, highly trained members have plenty of pocket change and be exceptionally well paid. People with plenty of extra money jingling in their jeans are much more likely to feed other parts of the business – prostitution, drugs, and gambling, primarily. So at contract time you better stand and deliver or your business will be damaged or destroyed because “we’ll” shut ‘er down.

Also nice to have members working at a variety of places. It comes in handy when you need a trailer full of cigarettes or booze. It helps to have someone on the inside that knows what is loaded in which trailer and where it’s headed and when. They can also provide things like keys, uniforms, and company ID.

There’s been millions of cases over the decades where someone will approach a driver, slip a $100 bill in his shirt pocket, and tell him that tomorrow morning on your first run, you’ll pull over and get coffee just like normal.

Then the next day he does. When he comes out the truck is gone.

An uncle of mine worked in loss prevention for Anheuser-Busch. In their region, depending on the time of year, their “leakage rate” approached 10%. That figure certainly isn’t “normal,” but it’d spike up to that percentage occasionally.

Now ask yourself – what the F do you do with a trailer (or two or three) full of beer? You aren’t going to drink it any time soon. Unless you have one hell of a big garage you aren’t going to store it there.

So what do you do? Exactly – you have to have someone with something like a beer distribution company. Someplace with a warehouse and loading docks and forklifts. Someplace where they can mix it in with the legitimately purchased beer and pass it off.

Then you realize that the local union president has a nephew that happens to own a couple distribution companies and one distributes beer. Hmmm… on and on. Beer, cigarettes, office supplies, building materials, auto parts, produce, plants from nurseries – it never ends.

There’s plenty of money in it. With that money you can feed the politicians (and with the members you can apply pressure) to make life a little easier on yourself. That’s how it has worked forever.

Oh, but now U.S. companies aren’t chained to their surly, combative, overpaid labor force. In a lot of cases the U.S. market is saturated and in decline. As their labor costs become increasingly silly and prohibitive, local and regional players come in to undercut them. It becomes increasingly attractive to concentrate your efforts where you can get the best return – Latin America and Asia.

And though those areas have a reputation for having a lot of corruption, it can be much cheaper to deal with the corruption there rather than the corruption here – at least for the time being.

Whatever… slow day here…

21 posted on 03/16/2005 1:59:12 PM PST by Who dat?
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And it certainly doesn't help their cause with headlines like these:

Marines driven out of UAW lot

The union says Marines in foreign cars, displaying Bush stickers unwelcome

22 posted on 03/16/2005 2:00:11 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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bump for later read


33 posted on 03/16/2005 3:15:05 PM PST by I_be_tc
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