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Posted on 03/16/2005 10:06:33 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- A state appeals court has refused to block the expected removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube on Friday.
If you have a narrow view of G_d, then yes. However, I see G_d everywhere and in everything.
God bless him! Is this posted to a separate thread? It really needs to be.
Thanks SO MUCH for the pings; I am in and out today but trying to stay informed.
Did Terri's brains fall out of her head?
You keep talking about the courts and how they have heard this and ruled that after hearing this and that.
Bull$h!t!
This is Felos' exact words. You are here only to disrupt. Read the Empire Journal thoroughly (unless you can't because your IP might come up as the hacker), before posting your nonsense.
oops, that was supposed to go on the Bo Gritz info -- that's great news.
And tell orecon the "courts" is Judge Greer!
The definition of just what constitutes a "worthy life" is the issue here, and how the preservation of that precious life is adjudicated. I'm sure this man would love nothing more than to merely have to cope with a feeding tube (essentially a straw) and to work to pursue potentially beneficial speech and swallowing therapy... but .. ooops, I forgot .. he has loving and supportive "guardians" nearby who work to preserve his life and make his days as comfortable as possible.
Were he not a genius, do you then believe his "guardians" and loved ones would work to see that he was starved to death because he required speaking and eating assistance to stay alive (in his case, a lot of assistance)? Is Terri any less a worthy and valuable life than Stephen Hawking? The love and the desire of the "guardians" and loved ones to help keep their dear disabled one alive for as long as God designs is the difference. Life is precious -- and where there is life there is hope.
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Up to 1974, I was able to feed myself, and get in and out of bed. Jane managed to help me, and bring up the children, without outside help. However, things were getting more difficult, so we took to having one of my research students living with us. In return for free accommodation, and a lot of my attention, they helped me get up and go to bed.
In 1980, we changed to a system of community and private nurses, who came in for an hour or two in the morning and evening. This lasted until I caught pneumonia in 1985. I had to have a tracheostomy operation. After this, I had to have 24 hour nursing care. This was made possible by grants from several foundations.
Before the operation, my speech had been getting more slurred, so that only a few people who knew me well, could understand me. But at least I could communicate. I wrote scientific papers by dictating to a secretary, and I gave seminars through an interpreter, who repeated my words more clearly. However, the tracheostomy operation removed my ability to speak altogether.
For a time, the only way I could communicate was to spell out words letter by letter, by raising my eyebrows when someone pointed to the right letter on a spelling card. It is pretty difficult to carry on a conversation like that, let alone write a scientific paper. However, a computer expert in California, called Walt Woltosz, heard of my plight. He sent me a computer program he had written, called Equalizer. This allowed me to select words from a series of menus on the screen, by pressing a switch in my hand.
The program could also be controlled by a switch, operated by head or eye movement. When I have built up what I want to say, I can send it to a speech synthesizer. At first, I just ran the Equalizer program on a desk top computer. However David Mason, of Cambridge Adaptive Communication, fitted a small portable computer and a speech synthesizer to my wheel chair. This system allowed me to communicate much better than I could before. I can manage up to 15 words a minute. I can either speak what I have written, or save it on disk. I can then print it out, or call it back, and speak it sentence by sentence.
Using this system, I have written a book, and dozens of scientific papers. I have also given many scientific and popular talks. They have all been well received. I think that is in a large part due to the quality of the speech synthesizer, which is made by Speech Plus.
One's voice is very important. If you have a slurred voice, people are likely to treat you as mentally deficient: Does he take sugar? This synthesizer is by far the best I have heard, because it varies the intonation, and doesn't speak like a Dalek. The only trouble is that it gives me an American accent. However, the company is working on a British version.
I have had motor neurone disease for practically all my adult life. Yet it has not prevented me from having a very attractive family, and being successful in my work. This is thanks to the help I have received from Jane, my children, and a large number of other people and organisations. I have been lucky, that my condition has progressed more slowly than is often the case. But it shows that one need not lose hope. Stephen Hawking
LIFE IS A GIFT FROM GOD, IS PRECIOUS AND WHERE THERE IS LIFE THERE IS HOPE.
Exactly why people shouldn't have a narrow view of what constitutes life. Logic looks at someone who can't express herself and says, "no life there". We know otherwise. Even with people who slip into comas and are aware of everything that is taking place in the room while unconcious.
This woman is a living, breathing human being. Because she cannot swallow, she's human refuse according to the Kill Terri crowd.
That is a wonderful post! Thank you!
"Terri's wishes not to be sustained using artificial tubes were litigated in court, where several witnesses were called. The court found "clear and convincing evidence" of Terri's wishes."
Do you think it's possible the court could have made a bad call? I'll post this to you too:
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Regarding that alleged conversation [when Terri supposedly said she would want to die in such a situation] --Cindy Shook said that Michael Schiavo said:
"How the hell should I know, we never spoke about this, we were young."
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:yzE5tNjKsYMJ:ottawa.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/628.shtml+schiavo+how+the+hell+should+i+know&hl=en
I guess you have a lot of reading to do, then! ;-) Don't be overwhelmed...you'll never be able to catch up on it all. Just start with today's stuff and go from there!
Nothing like this is easy, esp. when it is a friend or loved one. Life is a veil of tears. We must remember the words of the Lord: "Whatsoever you do unto the least of these, you do unto me." We don't understand the purposes behind these things, but God has commanded against killing, and to reason otherwise is to substitute the finite wisdom of man with the unsearchable wisdom of the divine.
ERRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Incorrect. Thank you for playing. Please pick up your home version on the way out.
Logic, not MY logic, says that the right to life is fundamental. And I'll ask you one more time concerning the action of one ending the life of another: By What Right?
How do you know that the miracle from God hasn't taken place, since Greer won't allow the latest tests to be used on her?
Ummm...nice that you put it in writing to cover yourself, but Terri never put anything in writing EVER, and the only people who say this is what she would have wanted are the ones who seek to benefit when she dies.
The ones who say otherwise and by the way...Greer admitted his mistake in the Karen Quinlan time frame THAT WAS USED TO DETERMINE IF SHE REALLY SAID IT OR NOT, and then said "oh well, its too late" knowing full well that HE USED THAT SITUATION TO MAKE THE DECISION TO LET HINO KILL HER.
Learn to read, please.
Again, Ohioan, thanks a bunch!
Mocking God now???
Lord help you, but then you are probably an athiest.
I usually don't comment on the Schiavo threads, unless they are posted in Breaking News. Too many emotional responses.
I like to read different opinions from mine, but sometimes I've left reading rumors, innuendos, and misstatements of law.
This case reminds of the Elian case, the little boy from Cuba shipped back in 2000. People with strong opinions on both sides. I was on the losing side during the Elian saga, so I realize how easy it is to become furious with judges.
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