SCHIAVO CASE: APPEAL COURT SAYS NO TO HER PARENTS

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[SoFloFreeper]

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- A state appeals court has refused to block the expected removal of Terri Schiavo's feeding tube on Friday.

[Diamond]

Don't hold your breath waiting for evidence.

Cordially,

[xsmommy]

he can sponsor a private bill and have custody awarded to her parents. my husband used to work on the Hill and he has wondered why this wasn't done a long time ago.

[penowa]

This is an article by Melton about various cases he found: http://justiceforfloridaseniors.org/abusenfraud/index.php?p=17. This is the reprint of an article from the Gulf Coast Business Review about what is going on with guardianships: http://justiceforfloridaseniors.org/abusenfraud/index.php?p=18.

[ORECON]

She obviously IS NOT BRAIN DEAD NOR IS SHE A VEGETABLE. Got that?

This is where the doctors and I disagree with you. I have personally witnessed someone with only a brain stem act just like Terri.

[jwalsh07]

I told tyou what Florida law says. You answer with some ying and yang about living wills.

You were talking about the law which is why I told you what the law said. Now that you know what it says answer this simple question.

May Michael Schiavo have a conflcit of interest?

[bjs1779]

Seems like Greer is some kind of "king" down there - everyone does what he says. It REALLY needs to be investigated!

"Greer has a goon squad. If I see a black SUV outside my place, I'll have to make a note in my jr. detective notebook and then call the Tampa Secret Service."
7,021 posted on 03/15/2005 4:54:15 PM CST by floriduh voter

[numberonepal]

Don't hold your breath waiting for evidence.

I'm not. I was just baiting for the spanking in #152.

[Rutles4Ever]

I guess now we don't have to worry about building all those nursing homes for Baby Boomer Seniors...

[BykrBayb]

If you're not a troll, offer up some evidence of your claims. You come in here parroting the liberal agenda, and then get all indignant when you're called on it. Sheesh!

[STARWISE]

".............An accurate discussion of this sensitive issue requires the making of proper and nuanced distinctions about the consequences of removing nourishment from incapacitated patients. This generally becomes an issue in one of the following two diametrically differing circumstances:

(1) Depriving food and water from profoundly cognitively disabled persons like Terri who are not otherwise dying, a process that causes death by dehydration over a period of 10-14 days. As I will illustrate below, this may cause great suffering.

2) Not forcing food and water upon patients who have stopped eating and drinking as part of the natural dying process. This typically occurs, for example, at the end stages of cancer when patients often refuse nourishment because the disease has distorted their senses of hunger and thirst. In these situations, being deprived of unwanted food and water when the body is already shutting down does not cause a painful death.

Advocates who argue that it is appropriate to dehydrate cognitively disabled people often sow confusion about the suffering such patients may experience by inadvertently, or perhaps intentionally, blurring the difference between these two distinct situations.

(snip)

".............A conscious [cognitively disabled] person would feel it just as you or I would. They will go into seizures. Their skin cracks, their tongue cracks, their lips crack. They may have nosebleeds because of the drying of the mucus membranes, and heaving and vomiting might ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. They feel the pangs of hunger and thirst. Imagine going one day without a glass of water! Death by dehydration takes ten to fourteen days. It is an extremely agonizing death.

" ........... After seven to nine days [from commencing dehydration] they begin to lose all fluids in the body, a lot of fluids in the body. And their blood pressure starts to go down. When their blood pressure goes down, their heart rate goes up. . . . Their respiration may increase and then . . . the blood is shunted to the central part of the body from the periphery of the body. So, that usually two to three days prior to death, sometimes four days, the hands and the feet become extremely cold.

They become mottled. That is you look at the hands and they have a bluish appearance. And the mouth dries a great deal, and the eyes dry a great deal and other parts of the body become mottled. And that is because the blood is now so low in the system it's shunted to the heart and other visceral organs and away from the periphery of the body . . ."

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Rest of article A Painless Death?

=================================== Take a look at a lovely young lady, Lisa McPherson who unfortunately got involved with the Scientology cult in Clearwater,FL. Under their abusive care for 17 days, she died a horrendous death.

Someone else may wish to post her shocking autopsy photo here to inform you as to the brutal results of death by starvation and dehydration. It requires ample warning, it's so graphic. We wouldn't allow a death row criminal or dog to suffer like this, and you know it.

Terri is conscious, NOT hooked to any machines, NOT on artificial life support and NOT in a coma. She only needs food and water ... don't you?

[DJ MacWoW]

Why even take the time to respond

Because it never hurts to call someones attention to a document they might not have known about or read.

[ORECON]

Did you ever stop to consider that Michael may be right?

[daylate-dollarshort]

The bottom line is that by the time the Appellate Court publishes a decision on this appeal, Terri Schiavo will likely be dead.

[antceecee]

Gee somewhere in here there is probably basic protections for Terri's life:

Excerpted U.S. Constitutio/amendments:
Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

[Xenalyte]

Jodie Centonze is no one's wife, common-law or otherwise. Michael Schiavo has a wife named Terri. Miss Centonze is Schiavo's concubine.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Judge Greer, a devout Christian

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's like saying John Kerry is a devout Catholic!

Haven't you been keeping up on George Greer? He no longer goes to to Calvary Baptist where he is a member! He's been having some 'problems' with them lately. Hmmm! Wonder what kinds of problems? Maybe some having to do with conscience?

[eccentric]

"Waiting for Dept. of Children & Families to weigh in and take Terri into protective custody."

THEN WHERE ARE THEY?!?!?!

[ORECON]

Go ahead and call troll on me. Just because we disagree on the Terri Schiavo case doesn't make me a troll.

[numberonepal]

This is where the doctors and I disagree with you.

So what. Please tell me in all your eternal wisdom what gives anyone the right to kill her.

[Xenalyte]

Then I'll just stick to calling her his whore, which is not technically correct since he's not paying her but is quite satisfying to say.

BTW, I apologize for offending your sensibilities, but "bastard" is indeed the correct term for a child born out of wedlock, as the two Centonze children undoubtedly are. I don't make the rules . . . I just know and follow them.